Greenwald: Fisa court oversight: a look inside a secret and empty process

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29. secret protection is no protection

i think one big point you are missing is that before 2008 law an individual warrant was needed and now blanket warrants are issued on a regular basis,which we used to call "fishing trips"

and if the gov't had a legit reason for tracking foriegn calls then yes they could also listen to citizens the foreigner was communicating with but then why no individual warrant as the 4th demands?

since you seem reasonable please read this

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1305/01/ebo.01.html


BURNETT: Tim, is there any way, obviously, there is a voice mail they can try to get the phone companies to give that up at this point. It's not a voice mail. It's just a conversation. There's no way they actually can find out what happened, right, unless she tells them?

CLEMENTE: No, there is a way. We certainly have ways in national security investigations to find out exactly what was said in that conversation. It's not necessarily something that the FBI is going to want to present in court, but it may help lead the investigation and/or lead to questioning of her. We certainly can find that out.

BURNETT: So they can actually get that? People are saying, look, that is incredible.

CLEMENTE: No, welcome to America. All of that stuff is being captured as we speak whether we know it or like it or not.