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Catherina

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32. Today, Senate Intel Committee blocked former staffer from talking to press about oversight
Tue Jun 18, 2013, 10:54 PM
Jun 2013

I smelled something rotten this morning when this story popped up: http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023038994
Senate Intel Committee Blocks Former Staffer From Talking To Press About Oversight Process]

I don't think this is a coincidence. There seems to be something they don't want on record even though that information is unclassified. The whistelblowers have all said the oversight is a joke, that the NSA is processing stuff for the FBI. Thomas Drake, William Binney and J. Kirk Wiebe said they went to the Congressional Intelligence Committee about these problems and got no help. And yesterday Snowden specifically fingered them too, not about oversight but in general. He called them the Gang of Eight.

"seeing a continuing litany of lies from senior officials to Congress - and therefore the American people - and the realization that that Congress, specifically the Gang of Eight, wholly supported the lies that compelled me to act."


This is truly terrible. I don't know who's advising the President but if I were his PR person, I'd suggest a totally different tactic.

From your article, which we already knew from the other whistleblowers:

So vast is this discretion that NSA analysts even have the authority to surveil communications between their targets and their lawyers, and that information can be not just stored but also disseminated. NSA procedures do not ban such interception, but rather set forth procedures to be followed in the event that the NSA analyst believes they should be "disseminated". ..."


So due process rights went out to window too. I still remember people's reaction when we learned that NSA was listening to the phone sex of US soldiers overseas who were calling their partners back home. The whistleblowers explain how you could bring up those calls the same way you choose the songs on your I-pod. There's a video of the ABC News segement at the link.

And that was then, before the analysts were given even more leeway in choosing their targets.

None of this is good at all.

They need to put an immediate stop to all activities violating the 4th Amendment.

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Read enough to determine one thing: OilemFirchen Jun 2013 #1
Yeah, the whole scandal's been a bust really. Goal posts keep on moving... BenzoDia Jun 2013 #2
He's got the goalposts in the back up a pickup... OilemFirchen Jun 2013 #3
So you're cool with your govt spying on you and lying about it? chimpymustgo Jun 2013 #9
There was no lying really. Congress' vote for FISA Amendment Act is pretty clear. BenzoDia Jun 2013 #14
from the article questionseverything Jun 2013 #26
The Government has always acknowledged that sweeping up 'incidental' communication. BenzoDia Jun 2013 #30
incidental huh? questionseverything Jun 2013 #37
Your article is dealing with events that are pre-FISAAA. BenzoDia Jun 2013 #47
Well there's design and there's implementation tblue Jun 2013 #38
I'm not defending anything. Me saying that the leaks have been a bust is not the same as approving BenzoDia Jun 2013 #46
I'd hardly call it a bust Mojorabbit Jun 2013 #28
Get your eyes checked. Luminous Animal Jun 2013 #4
Why? OilemFirchen Jun 2013 #5
Kick for the intellectually stimulating criticism. Luminous Animal Jun 2013 #6
Your intellectually stimulating comment is noted. OilemFirchen Jun 2013 #7
Please read the article to learn how the govt and paid media are lying to you about the NSA spying. chimpymustgo Jun 2013 #8
LOL, and all he's really released was from a training session on NSA software. DevonRex Jun 2013 #10
K&R MotherPetrie Jun 2013 #11
I'll take the place of the defenders of the faith. Savannahmann Jun 2013 #12
I think that covers it. Luminous Animal Jun 2013 #13
i have read the article, greenwald back tracks on all his claims! Monkie Jun 2013 #17
Could you post a paragraph that shows the backtracking. kentuck Jun 2013 #45
parody does not translate well, it is scandalous, i have seen no backtracking at all Monkie Jun 2013 #48
Sorry Monkie... kentuck Jun 2013 #49
The next generation will have to be taught what "The Onion" was all about. reusrename Jun 2013 #50
As a matter of fact maxrandb Jun 2013 #18
listening or capturing,same dif questionseverything Jun 2013 #27
That's the beauty of it Maedhros Jun 2013 #33
+1 Vinnie From Indy Jun 2013 #51
How about a grandstanding I LOVE MyPOTUS!!!!! forestpath Jun 2013 #20
STOP IT Savannahmann Skittles Jun 2013 #25
9. We already knew about this, was common knowledge bobduca Jun 2013 #31
I wonder if Snowden waits for the Government response, and then forwards the rebuttal to Greenwald dkf Jun 2013 #15
According to Greenwald, the Guardian has it all it just takes time to Luminous Animal Jun 2013 #19
It could have been a second dump though. dkf Jun 2013 #22
#1) Why do you characterize it as a dump? And... Luminous Animal Jun 2013 #24
the guardian is vetting, and has to obey UK national security laws Monkie Jun 2013 #34
I read through the entire thing. BlueCheese Jun 2013 #16
Court oversight does seem to be a joke. dkf Jun 2013 #23
secret protection is no protection questionseverything Jun 2013 #29
Yes, I think you have it exactly right, but I think there's more, much more. reusrename Jun 2013 #52
K&R forestpath Jun 2013 #21
Today, Senate Intel Committee blocked former staffer from talking to press about oversight Catherina Jun 2013 #32
about the PR angle, the president could of used this outrage and scandal as a weapon Monkie Jun 2013 #35
so how do we make them stop? questionseverything Jun 2013 #36
Where did you hear those details about the crash? Luminous Animal Jun 2013 #41
they are in the news report link i posted questionseverything Jun 2013 #53
well i see the link does not work now questionseverything Jun 2013 #54
Thank you, Catherina. tblue Jun 2013 #39
Twilight Zone stuff. TheKentuckian Jun 2013 #42
No shit Sherlock Life Long Dem Jun 2013 #40
Kick. Luminous Animal Jun 2013 #43
VIP - Very Important Post kentuck Jun 2013 #44
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