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133. A despicable tactic, and one which diminishes the tragedy and evil of actual racism, to use it as

Wed Jun 19, 2013, 01:18 AM

Jun 2013

nothing more than a mere political tool in such a cavalier way, to try to score some points on a relatively obscure political forum.

Sickening actually. No wonder we have few minority members here. This is the kind of thing that drives people away from DU.

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No, one is not a racist merely for opposing this administration on surveillance policy [View all] cali Jun 2013 OP

Lets have the debate Harmony Blue Jun 2013 #1

I still have a couple benefits of the doubt left. I think Obama also welcomes this opportunity leveymg Jun 2013 #38

Oh, please. Coccydynia Jun 2013 #77

Wow, I'm not able to see it that way tavalon Jun 2013 #181

I'm sorry, but when you start screaming NAZI... ConservativeDemocrat Jun 2013 #212

Right. H2O Man Jun 2013 #2

That meme is getting old and tired. Thanks Cali, great post..n/t monmouth3 Jun 2013 #5

Thank you, H2O Man. Jackpine Radical Jun 2013 #90

I'm as black as Obama and I hate this tblue Jun 2013 #109

Yes, they will, they will do anything, no matter how little sense it makes, if you dare to criticize sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #137

You're clearly not black enough to understand tavalon Jun 2013 #182

A despicable tactic, and one which diminishes the tragedy and evil of actual racism, to use it as sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #133

Yup tavalon Jun 2013 #183

+1 exactly. SlimJimmy Jun 2013 #3

That thread floored me, premium Jun 2013 #4

I can guess. dkf Jun 2013 #31

And you'd probably be right. premium Jun 2013 #35

DUMBEST. OP. EVER. tblue Jun 2013 #113

Thank you! This is NOT ABOUT RACE... Raster Jun 2013 #219

The same lot cast the same accusation at LGBT people for opposing bigotry toward Bluenorthwest Jun 2013 #6

GDP on DU2 was horrible toward our LGBT community (not LGBT myself, but ally). demmiblue Jun 2013 #8

+2 xchrom Jun 2013 #16

+ a zillion Jamastiene Jun 2013 #65

This message was self-deleted by its author ReRe Jun 2013 #122

YUP Maven Jun 2013 #205

Only a fool or transparent liar would suggest otherwise LittleBlue Jun 2013 #7

Or, a transparent fool pintobean Jun 2013 #9

I could not agree more. Savannahmann Jun 2013 #10

It definitely is Whisp Jun 2013 #11

The US government has been filled with corruption for years, this is not about Obama Bjorn Against Jun 2013 #21

Thank you, one of the most despicable uses of an issue that has caused so much suffering for sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #141

But I must say my tea party relatives all think NSA and IRS will target them. DevonRex Jun 2013 #48

I don't think centrists have any standing to exploit LGBT rights please note that Bluenorthwest Jun 2013 #172

And i disagree with them completely. Telling LGBTs they have to wait DevonRex Jun 2013 #204

There's even more crap than LGBT rights in immigration bill. H-1B visas are killer for me... cascadiance Jun 2013 #213

LOL. I haven't heard that one yet, thus it isn't on my top ten list of worshipers' excuses. PSPS Jun 2013 #12

here ya go Skittles Jun 2013 #72

DURec leftstreet Jun 2013 #13

There is the possibility that when Obama got into office he was told that we rhett o rick Jun 2013 #14

I think that would be putting the Enthusiast Jun 2013 #148

There is also the possibility, posited by the late Bill Hicks tavalon Jun 2013 #185

HUGE K & R !!! - Thank You !!! WillyT Jun 2013 #15

Some will say anything to avoid the issue usGovOwesUs3Trillion Jun 2013 #17

I must have the OP of that thread on ignore... backscatter712 Jun 2013 #18

Thanks cali. The racist card is really a pathetic thing Autumn Jun 2013 #19

It's a pathetic delfection 99% of the time Puzzledtraveller Jun 2013 #164

Every administration comes up with strategies to keep the base in line. This one was obvious. yardwork Jun 2013 #20

What did he expect would be the result when he threw the professional left under the bus. L0oniX Jun 2013 #196

He doesn't care. yardwork Jun 2013 #198

If you tally all the posts made by the pro-surveillance group Maedhros Jun 2013 #22

The lady doth protest too much, methinks. MjolnirTime Jun 2013 #23

What the fuck is that supposed to mean? The Link Jun 2013 #24

about as Progressive as Ralph Nader. MjolnirTime Jun 2013 #25

sorry, I'm not a Nader fan and my politics don't align with his on most issues cali Jun 2013 #27

I have no idea if you're a racist. But you're definitely not a Democrat. MjolnirTime Jun 2013 #30

then why insinuate that I am a racist? If you don't know that I am and cali Jun 2013 #41

Post removed Post removed Jun 2013 #47

fail. gad. I post facts and evidence and you pull 1984 crap cali Jun 2013 #52

You mean most Old Elmers. Most DUers actually support our Party and President. MjolnirTime Jun 2013 #55

first of all you're the one doing the screaming. cali Jun 2013 #59

It's the same recs from the same people who always rec up your posts. MjolnirTime Jun 2013 #63

oh dear. now I see. you dwell in lala land and just make shit up. cali Jun 2013 #66

I don't think you would care what I say if you believed that. MjolnirTime Jun 2013 #68

lol. you're in bizzarro land. cali Jun 2013 #76

LOL, you sound jealous. Funny. n-t Logical Jun 2013 #92

Well here's a rec you won't recognize theHandpuppet Jun 2013 #160

Excellent, undeniably true point. Enthusiast Jun 2013 #149

Well lookee here, premium Jun 2013 #58

Jury results DisgustipatedinCA Jun 2013 #51

thank you. I didn't alert. I don't often. cali Jun 2013 #54

nowadays, it's not so easy for a small clique to run roughshod over the rest of us by alerting MjolnirTime Jun 2013 #60

alerting in concert, huh? DisgustipatedinCA Jun 2013 #62

Post removed Post removed Jun 2013 #64

You called it. Bobbie Jo Jun 2013 #108

not even close to being accurate. cali Jun 2013 #110

Yeah Bobbie Jo Jun 2013 #112

I alert maybe once or twice a year tavalon Jun 2013 #189

The post didn't say anyone was racist michigandem58 Jun 2013 #153

I alerted on the post too tavalon Jun 2013 #188

You have no idea what a Democrat is. leveymg Jun 2013 #45

MjolnirTime, this exchange shows you're not the kind of person I'd defile myself by associating with backscatter712 Jun 2013 #84

Sorry you lost the argument and had to resort to ridiculousness. Hissyspit Jun 2013 #150

I don't often agree w/ Cali - but that's a lie xchrom Jun 2013 #42

we're all coming out of the closet on this one. DITTO! Raster Jun 2013 #218

Fuck, isn't there a Godwin for this sort of flame baiting? tavalon Jun 2013 #187

That (s)he read someone else quote Shakespeare and thought it made them sound intellectual. Egalitarian Thug Jun 2013 #140

really? are you calling me a racist? answer yes or no. cali Jun 2013 #26

you built the straw man. now you can dance with him. MjolnirTime Jun 2013 #28

No, you made the accusation. Now you can back it up. Demit Jun 2013 #33

oh no I didn't. YOU absolutely insinuated that I was a racist. It's vile and totally contemptible cali Jun 2013 #36

you insinuated that all those who defend the President are calling the rest of you racists MjolnirTime Jun 2013 #50

uh, grab a clue, little pumpkin. cali Jun 2013 #57

Consider me a drama queen also. I have not read that thread, I read the headline which was enough. sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #134

Don't waste any H2O Man Jun 2013 #71

you are so right. cali Jun 2013 #78

You can't even answer cali's question honestly, premium Jun 2013 #75

Have the guts to just say what you mean. nt Union Scribe Jun 2013 #127

LOL, "10 posts hidden in 90 days", you seems to have an anger problem! n-t Logical Jun 2013 #93

Wow. premium Jun 2013 #97

Me too. I thought 5 was the breaking point. n-t Logical Jun 2013 #99

5.03% of posts hidden? That's 1 in 20! Holy MOLY! MNBrewer Jun 2013 #118

Plus 2 more just from this thread ...not yet added. L0oniX Jun 2013 #197

How did he get two posts hidden in the same thread? nm rhett o rick Jun 2013 #214

He's a quick one ain't he. L0oniX Jun 2013 #221

It's very right wing to refuse to discuss it treestar Jun 2013 #156

that's ridiculous. I'm more than willing to discuss racism cali Jun 2013 #168

Some of it may be treestar Jun 2013 #176

The MjolnirTime doth think too little, methinks. tavalon Jun 2013 #186

Nobody cares what you think iamthebandfanman Jun 2013 #203

No, Mjolnir. sibelian Jun 2013 #210

Correct. The corollary: one is not an apologist for feeling skeptical about Snowden's claims arcane1 Jun 2013 #29

The point is you are not supposed to have evidence...it's secret. dkf Jun 2013 #34

" You need blind trust and suspension of disbelief or you are a racist." arcane1 Jun 2013 #117

I'll buy that. cali Jun 2013 #39

It doesn't matter what you say, kiva Jun 2013 #32

Good post TomClash Jun 2013 #37

Identity Politics, a favorite trope for the sock puppets, apologists, and cheerleaders. blkmusclmachine Jun 2013 #40

Maybe Obama is working with eyes wide open, has listened when the surveillance program was explained Thinkingabout Jun 2013 #43

I suspect my response on that thread will not jury as well as the OP did... Earth_First Jun 2013 #44

yeah? well I understand just how you feel. I have nothing but contempt cali Jun 2013 #46

It's really gotten out of hand... Earth_First Jun 2013 #49

+1 Little Star Jun 2013 #56

If it's hidden, wear it on your Transparency page with pride! backscatter712 Jun 2013 #89

New tactic? I see ONE opening post alleging it's because Obama is black. One. KittyWampus Jun 2013 #53

Nope it's that op and the accusation has been made within other threads cali Jun 2013 #61

look how many DUers agreed Skittles Jun 2013 #74

x2 AnotherMcIntosh Jun 2013 #120

This latino agress with you DonCoquixote Jun 2013 #67

I'm absolutely SICK of them Skittles Jun 2013 #69

Oh my, did a right wing straw man come true? alp227 Jun 2013 #70

damn right... nradisic Jun 2013 #73

You know why I like you Cali? Puglover Jun 2013 #79

thanks. that made me laugh cali Jun 2013 #80

Because Cali tends to piss off asscarrots? L0oniX Jun 2013 #231

This message was self-deleted by its author backscatter712 Jun 2013 #81

honestly? I don't think we're much better when we use that kind of language. cali Jun 2013 #82

Fair enough, but I'm sick of this fascist crap. backscatter712 Jun 2013 #86

I think it's easy to bring them to Snowden's side. reusrename Jun 2013 #111

"They're somewhat like H2O Man Jun 2013 #87

This message was self-deleted by its author premium Jun 2013 #83

I didn't give a crap when the republicans called me anti-American or communist. Why would I care liberal_at_heart Jun 2013 #85

The administration inherited an apparatus and a state of war Babel_17 Jun 2013 #88

Obama switched his position on FISA in July 2008 while still Senator and explained why. JaneyVee Jun 2013 #91

No he doesn't. Not one quote. not one word. that article is about the disappointment cali Jun 2013 #94

Oh, didn't mean in that article he explains, he explained his switch around July 2008 and JaneyVee Jun 2013 #96

that "thought" is by far the most stupid thing I've read here on DU stupidicus Jun 2013 #95

race is one of the main reasons I am against it La Lioness Priyanka Jun 2013 #98

Frankly, ProSense Jun 2013 #100

I folllow everything you stated.... humbled_opinion Jun 2013 #107

/\ I'd like to see DU's NSA Fanclub answer these points. /\ Vanje Jun 2013 #209

K&R MotherPetrie Jun 2013 #101

rec. nt Demo_Chris Jun 2013 #102

knr Douglas Carpenter Jun 2013 #103

No it's not because he is black JustAnotherGen Jun 2013 #104

I think that's an accurate take. of course there's a lot of evidence that opposition to Obama cali Jun 2013 #106

From that great sage prolific show I love JustAnotherGen Jun 2013 #115

I remember the primaries and the 2008 whisper hush hush campaign a certain 3rd person running graham4anything Jun 2013 #145

I think there is a difference JustAnotherGen Jun 2013 #171

"If PMs amongs black DUer's could talk..." Girrrrl, Number23 Jun 2013 #119

''No, one is not a racist merely for opposing this administration on surveillance policy.'' DeSwiss Jun 2013 #105

Thank you, Cali. Your OP is right on. scarletwoman Jun 2013 #114

No one deserves to be called "apologist" for merely treestar Jun 2013 #116

And you keep pretending the law is being followed and is actually legitimate Hydra Jun 2013 #123

You keep pretending there are no courts treestar Jun 2013 #152

It is being challenged. And for the hundredth time, just because something is legal doesn't cali Jun 2013 #155

For the hundredth time treestar Jun 2013 #158

Context for readers! A post by treestar from her rant 'gays have plenty of rights' Bluenorthwest Jun 2013 #170

This thread is not about gay rights treestar Jun 2013 #175

It's abhorent and unconstitutional tavalon Jun 2013 #193

That was already tried. westerebus Jun 2013 #165

Appeal that to the courts treestar Jun 2013 #174

It couldn't be done until Snowden leaked the program Hydra Jun 2013 #201

Well that makes two of us who've tried. westerebus Jun 2013 #229

I know a lot of people have posted resonable points to this poster's points Hydra Jun 2013 #232

Around here the truth * requires * an advocate. westerebus Jun 2013 #235

Do you honestly think the words "apologist" and "racist" Union Scribe Jun 2013 #128

Oh please it is meant as an insult here treestar Jun 2013 #154

Um... Hissyspit Jun 2013 #151

K&R suffragette Jun 2013 #121

K&R ReRe Jun 2013 #124

It's a rather pathetic attempt to silence criticism of Obama's policies. Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2013 #125

So why was it not a huge scandal under Bush? Scootaloo Jun 2013 #126

I remember it was a big deal. BlueCheese Jun 2013 #130

That sounds more like "endorsement" than "scandal" Scootaloo Jun 2013 #131

I suppose Congress endorsed it. BlueCheese Jun 2013 #132

Yeah, that one hurt tavalon Jun 2013 #194

It was a huge scandal under bush. for fuck's sake, just google it. cali Jun 2013 #146

This ^^^^^^ treestar Jun 2013 #177

It WAS Maven Jun 2013 #208

Thank you for speaking up so clearly and forcefully. AnotherMcIntosh Jun 2013 #129

Thank you!! +1000 nt CokeMachine Jun 2013 #135

President Obama asked us felix_numinous Jun 2013 #136

You are correct, thanks for posting this, I thought about doing so, then considered the sources sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #138

Race didn't stop majority of voters from electing Obama twice. HooptieWagon Jun 2013 #139

Someday, we will have a RW GOP Prez with these powers that Obama has maintained so rigorously... nikto Jun 2013 #142

Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Jun 2013 #143

I have had many disagreements with you over the years, Cali Generic Other Jun 2013 #144

GO, you've eloquently described the situation and I feel the same way suffragette Jun 2013 #190

Completely agree with you, Cali steve2470 Jun 2013 #147

this is what happens when you let one group have this done to them dsc Jun 2013 #157

You are correct. Bluenorthwest Jun 2013 #166

I entirely agree. nt sibelian Jun 2013 #207

Agree With The OP - The 11-Dimensional Chess Defense Has Grown Tiresome At Best cantbeserious Jun 2013 #159

Cali, sweetie. . .let me explain it simply. Bush did the same thing and he's a Republican, so it's Nanjing to Seoul Jun 2013 #161

Two of them are by the same poster, Uzair: demmiblue Jun 2013 #162

k&r Puzzledtraveller Jun 2013 #163

BULLSH*T! SkyDaddy7 Jun 2013 #167

that's such a ridiculous charge that I can't even feel irritated about it. cali Jun 2013 #169

Pull that one out of your ass, did you? tavalon Jun 2013 #195

Kidney Stone of TRUTH! SkyDaddy7 Jun 2013 #211

Goodness me. Disturbing, is it? sibelian Jun 2013 #206

Well, we know only racists would be against putting Obama on Mt Rushmore jsr Jun 2013 #173

I am totally disgusted. sibelian Jun 2013 #178

Well, here is an example of the mindset Bobbie Jo Jun 2013 #179

That one has been used up, as far as I'm concerned tavalon Jun 2013 #180

Don't post this in the B. Obama group, or they will ban you too. Vincardog Jun 2013 #184

"too"??? L0oniX Jun 2013 #199

As they did me, for having the gall to state that there was no evidence of the unconstitutional NSA Vincardog Jun 2013 #200

yes, they have a beautiful walled garden over there.. frylock Jun 2013 #215

They are as welcome to their echo chamber as the fools at Faux. Vincardog Jun 2013 #237

Thank you... onyourleft Jun 2013 #191

My very first rec. n/t Butterbean Jun 2013 #192

All liberals who question our president are racists... iamthebandfanman Jun 2013 #202

Wah wah wah. Zoeisright Jun 2013 #216

I do so love such a brilliant response. cali Jun 2013 #217

+1000 Logical Jun 2013 #236

I agree heaven05 Jun 2013 #220

It mainly communicates "We have no argument." DirkGently Jun 2013 #222

Just strolling around, the "NSA critics are racists" theme is sprouting up all over. DirkGently Jun 2013 #223

I think it's meant to silence and discredit critics. pathetic, creepy shit. cali Jun 2013 #224

Mostly it just outs those without an argument (or scruples). DirkGently Jun 2013 #225

+1 Skip Intro Jun 2013 #228

A call has gone out. They want to drown everyone else out. Skip Intro Jun 2013 #226

It's a shame, because the topic IS worthy of contentious debate. DirkGently Jun 2013 #227

The usual gang of asscarrots. L0oniX Jun 2013 #230

Typical. n-t Logical Jun 2013 #234

Needs to stay bumped! n-t Logical Jun 2013 #233