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What really is the truth now? [View all] YeahSureRight Jun 2013 OP
Of course you can never KNOW who is telling the truth. randome Jun 2013 #1
You think you know the truth when infact the only truth you know is what tey tell you YeahSureRight Jun 2013 #5
I'm less inclined to believe anything Snowden says. randome Jun 2013 #8
I know WovenGems Jun 2013 #11
What I know is that I used to operate a system that could listen, identify, locate YeahSureRight Jun 2013 #15
Thank you WovenGems Jun 2013 #18
When I left that job 20 years ago they were already starting to work YeahSureRight Jun 2013 #23
Well, we can look at the evidence of course... Pholus Jun 2013 #9
The potential for abuse is always present. randome Jun 2013 #10
The potential for abuse is mitigated if there is a forced disposal of information. Pholus Jun 2013 #13
I don't see storing numbers as 'lifelong surveillance' but yeah, I can see the need for disposal. randome Jun 2013 #17
You're damned by your associates in those "numbers" Pholus Jun 2013 #20
Truth-one side does not want the democratic party to keep the senate. Truth-Ed Markey for Senate graham4anything Jun 2013 #2
Fact: Our nation has codified a privacy ethic known as the fourth amendment. geckosfeet Jun 2013 #3
It really is just a piece of parchment with old faded words written on it now nothing more. YeahSureRight Jun 2013 #6
Then the truth is relative. geckosfeet Jun 2013 #7
Of course it is relative YeahSureRight Jun 2013 #21
Correct on al counts. geckosfeet Jun 2013 #27
Events can not be lied about -- for example if gasoline goes up then we all know KurtNYC Jun 2013 #4
I tend to not trust bought and paid for politicians. The Link Jun 2013 #12
Figure out what the worst is and imagine things are 3.4 times worse than that. el_bryanto Jun 2013 #14
2+2=4 Puzzledtraveller Jun 2013 #16
Truth is like pornography. kentuck Jun 2013 #19
My method for discerning truth - it is the polar opposite of whatever republicans say rurallib Jun 2013 #22
my bet is that the Ron Pauler is lying. n/t Whisp Jun 2013 #24
A sprkly wibbly wobbly thing IN THE MIDDLE of soemthing else. sibelian Jun 2013 #25
You may have hit upon the crux of the matter. Turbineguy Jun 2013 #26
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