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CakeGrrl

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7. They may or may not be. Snowden did not PROVE that NSA USES personal data

Reply to Fumesucker (Original post)

Wed Jun 19, 2013, 11:20 AM

Jun 2013

That seems to be taken here as a fait accompli by many people just because he implied they had the capability.

And some of those who support him are doing so to an almost fanatical degree, charging "McCarthyist" tactics if anyone dares question if he's actually on the up-and-up.

But back to topic, I'm sure the capabilities exist. People have been abusing powers at their disposal for a long time.

Now just because it CAN happen, DOES it?

Sometimes. Another post yesterday used MLK surveillance as an example. But the point is, he was a very high-profile target.

I believe lots of high-profile individuals or organizations have or are monitored.

I just don't think they're abusing the power to make mine or any other Joe Schmoe's life miserable or to mess with us at random just for shits and giggles.

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The people I'm around in real life are convinced the government is recording everything [View all] Fumesucker Jun 2013 OP

OK..... Turbineguy Jun 2013 #1

No. And they're not recording phone calls, anyhow. MineralMan Jun 2013 #2

You are speaking to a point I did not make Fumesucker Jun 2013 #4

Someone posts. I reply. MineralMan Jun 2013 #5

Someone posts. I reply Fumesucker Jun 2013 #14

My post wasn't about what is or isn't, it's about what people *believe* is so Fumesucker Jun 2013 #3

I understood that. Turbineguy Jun 2013 #6

They may or may not be. Snowden did not PROVE that NSA USES personal data CakeGrrl Jun 2013 #7

I think you raise a very important distinction: the government may well be capable of recording HardTimes99 Jun 2013 #9

They are harvesting, storing, and analyzing all of it usGovOwesUs3Trillion Jun 2013 #10

"harvesting, storing and analyzing all of it" - that's quite a mouthful and I suppose HardTimes99 Jun 2013 #20

Exactly. CakeGrrl Jun 2013 #15

We have no evidence that Snowden is 'dealing this data' to anyone other HardTimes99 Jun 2013 #19

I read recently that Target can tell when a customer is pregnant very early in the gestation Fumesucker Jun 2013 #17

Ah yes, analytics. When you know what patterns of patterns to look for, it makes a huge difference. Electric Monk Jun 2013 #22

True treestar Jun 2013 #21

It's not so much whether the government can or is recording every telephone call, it's more HardTimes99 Jun 2013 #8

It Is Adopting a Pose of False Sophistication On the Road Jun 2013 #11

Is true sophistication then to believe that government would never, ever spy and lie? Fumesucker Jun 2013 #16

Yes, That is Exactly the Argument You Hear: On the Road Jun 2013 #23

Indeed RobertEarl Jun 2013 #12

We got use to being spied upon illegally by the BFEE. Rex Jun 2013 #13

/Priority Message/ Alert: Whiskeytide Jun 2013 #18

Re: The people I'm around in real life are convinced the government is recording everything shneepsen Jun 2013 #24

Is there any evidence of this? shneepsen Jul 2013 #25