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In reply to the discussion: Chomsky: Obama Is ‘Dedicated To Increasing Terrorism’ [View all]cpwm17
(3,829 posts)28. Chomsky: Obama Is ‘Dedicated To Increasing Terrorism’
Last edited Wed Jun 19, 2013, 10:29 PM - Edit history (1)
That doesn't have to be Obama's goal, but what's inside Obama's head is irrelevant. In practice, Obama's actions are terrorism and Obama's actions provoke more terrorism.
Chomsky continued: People have a reaction, they dont say, Fine, I dont care if my cousin was murdered. And they become what we call terrorists. This is completely understood from the highest level, that as you carry out these operations youre generating terrorism.
It's the most obvious fact in the world that victims of US actions may want revenge. That's why we were attacked on 9-11 in the first place, and US's response to 9-11 provokes even more terrorism.
The problem is most Americans stick their heads in the sand and don't want to know about the nasty behavior of the US Government around the world. Frankly, many Americans are just too stupid to care what the US is doing around the world. Many have no ability to walk in others' shoes. The Golden Rule is rocket science for them.
Here are excerpts from Osama's speech concerning his motivation for 9-11:
http://www.aljazeera.com/archive/2004/11/200849163336457223.html
The events that affected my soul in a direct way started in 1982 when America permitted the Israelis to invade Lebanon and the American Sixth Fleet helped them in that. This bombardment began and many were killed and injured and others were terrorised and displaced.
I couldn't forget those moving scenes, blood and severed limbs, women and children sprawled everywhere. Houses destroyed along with their occupants and high rises demolished over their residents, rockets raining down on our home without mercy.
The situation was like a crocodile meeting a helpless child, powerless except for his screams. Does the crocodile understand a conversation that doesn't include a weapon? And the whole world saw and heard but it didn't respond.
In those difficult moments many hard-to-describe ideas bubbled in my soul, but in the end they produced an intense feeling of rejection of tyranny, and gave birth to a strong resolve to punish the oppressors.
And as I looked at those demolished towers in Lebanon, it entered my mind that we should punish the oppressor in kind and that we should destroy towers in America in order that they taste some of what we tasted and so that they be deterred from killing our women and children.
And that day, it was confirmed to me that oppression and the intentional killing of innocent women and children is a deliberate American policy. Destruction is freedom and democracy, while resistance is terrorism and intolerance.
This means the oppressing and embargoing to death of millions as Bush Sr did in Iraq in the greatest mass slaughter of children mankind has ever known, and it means the throwing of millions of pounds of bombs and explosives at millions of children - also in Iraq - as Bush Jr did, in order to remove an old agent and replace him with a new puppet to assist in the pilfering of Iraq's oil and other outrages.
So with these images and their like as their background, the events of September 11th came as a reply to those great wrongs, should a man be blamed for defending his sanctuary?
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"Proves why Chomsky is irrelevant" was, until recently, the mantra of rightwingers like Limbaugh.
MiddleFingerMom
Jun 2013
#151
They're not rightwingers. They're just vehemently opposed to ANY criticism of "our side'...
MiddleFingerMom
Jun 2013
#160
I don't know if DU as a website has moved sharply to the right, I think it's a small and...
MiddleFingerMom
Jun 2013
#163
He supports the NSA "industry" and they have a vested interest (their jobs) in terrorism.
xtraxritical
Jun 2013
#53
You are mixing up concepts. For instance actions (and your interpretation thereof) & motive
stevenleser
Jun 2013
#70
No, it's not. Chomsky's entire article is about imputing motive. And even if for a moment I
stevenleser
Jun 2013
#109
"Chomsky's entire article" lolz,. there is no article, this post links to a video interview.
Civilization2
Jun 2013
#141
Well, you defended an article that imputes motive. Are you now saying you disagree with that?
stevenleser
Jun 2013
#112
Chomsky's title and entire article imputes motive to Obama. Again do you disagree with Chomsky
stevenleser
Jun 2013
#119
Do you understand what the title of Chomsky's article is? It says Obama is dedicated to...
stevenleser
Jun 2013
#124
Drones murdering folks tends to create enemies from the surviving family and friends.
Civilization2
Jun 2013
#140
if he was irrelevant, you wouldn't bother to discount this. Chomsky's source are all mainstream...
yurbud
Jun 2013
#131
Well said, All of America's terror activity kills random unlucky victims as well as intended targets
Civilization2
Jun 2013
#146
the "signature strike" ones stretched the definition of "suspected" to breaking
yurbud
Jun 2013
#170
Lol, and here we go again. Btw, are there any Progressive authors of his stature that are still okay
sabrina 1
Jun 2013
#195
Chomsky considered bin Laden's killing to be a "political assassination" and declared Obama
geek tragedy
Jun 2013
#2
By that reasoning, Chapo Guzman will be a political prisoner if they catch him nt
geek tragedy
Jun 2013
#14
The Pakistanis saw it as a violation of their sovereignty that we went in without
karynnj
Jun 2013
#35
We are in armed conflict with AQ. The only reason there was no formal declaration
geek tragedy
Jun 2013
#187
The specific operation to kill bin laden didn't involve killing all of those innocent children nt
geek tragedy
Jun 2013
#211
IOW, war is war. I don'T think the Germans enjoyed getting bombed from my dad's
Amonester
Jun 2013
#182
Imagine believing that a communications major and being an ex-homecoming queen
Generic Other
Jun 2013
#162
I love Chomsky...but Obama is dedicated to Obama. And he is doing what he thinks America wants.
McCamy Taylor
Jun 2013
#15
I think Chomsky thinks being shamed from the left will have more effect on a Democrat than it would
McCamy Taylor
Jun 2013
#23
K&R It would be nice to watch the video, but GRITtv wants to sell it's viewers too many times.
Egalitarian Thug
Jun 2013
#24
An endless war on TERROR! needs a steady stream of terrorists. Gotta float that budget! $$$
Fire Walk With Me
Jun 2013
#37
There are three things which could help them accept it and work toward its end...
Fire Walk With Me
Jun 2013
#59
No he didn't. And neither do the people whose human rights the US violates everyday
Catherina
Jun 2013
#64
Obviously, we need to hear much more detail from ALL of the people, ordinary people, in these
patrice
Jun 2013
#66
Dear Dr. Chomsky, is the killing okay as long as it is freelance? & Where are the weapons from??? nt
patrice
Jun 2013
#68
Maybe Mr. Putin can tell us where the ASSAULT WEAPOONS are from, or NOT from, as the case may be.nt
patrice
Jun 2013
#77
People, we MUST get over thinking every word out of the mouth of someone we like is 100%
patrice
Jun 2013
#76
Talk to me when people here aren't saying Obama might have had Hastings MURDERED.
DevonRex
Jun 2013
#167
See post #82 for "dedicated to increasing terrorism," and for that matter, our ongoing support
yurbud
Jun 2013
#171
Just like Obama was the only thing standing between the banks and the people w pitchforks
Catherina
Jun 2013
#115
If Obama were a true progressive, he would never have permitted the drones programme.
sibelian
Jun 2013
#133
Chomsky has written extensively on solutions that would actually work in the real world:
cpwm17
Jun 2013
#218
Since Chomsky is a linguistics professor at MIT, it's hard to suggest he didn't know and didn't mean
stevenleser
Jun 2013
#168
LOL. Neither Chomsky nor anyone who defends this should be taken seriously.
stevenleser
Jun 2013
#175
Just like Bush's policies, Obama's policies are also creating more terrorists
Marrah_G
Jun 2013
#217
you said there is no evidence that Obama's polices are increasing threat of terrorism.
limpyhobbler
Jun 2013
#197
None of the 3 articles you posted support that claim with anything close to quantifiable evidence.
ucrdem
Jun 2013
#201
It's easy to dismiss evidence even when presented with it if your mind is already made up.
limpyhobbler
Jun 2013
#202
Major Mike's "evidence" points to fear and dislike of drones but not to terrorist recruitment.
ucrdem
Jun 2013
#204
Chomsky wants to mislead us so he can transfer Bush's crimes to the black guy.
limpyhobbler
Jun 2013
#221