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In reply to the discussion: Former law abiding gun owner shoots wife over dinner [View all]AtheistCrusader
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108. It's speculating, no, flat out LYING to suggest that closing the gun show loop hole wouldn't reduce
suicides. A good bulk of successful suicides are done by firearm. Yet you say that taking a good number of firearms (especially the ones that people shouldn't have in the first place) off the street would not reduce suicides by firearm. THAT is the lie. You say that what I said would not reduce suicides by firearm and then accuse ME of speculating when I put the test to that lie. And people wonder why sensible people have an issue with gun nuts. Try using a bit of logic and get back to me. "
Your proposals don't take guns off the street.
"Yes, the gun is already in circulation, to someone who purportedly has demonstrated the legal right to own a firearm. Do you understand that? Then, at a gun show, it could very well transfer to someone who shouldn't own a firearm and on the streets. Comprende? Do all you gun nutters think that one gun owner is just as good as the next? It's really hard to tackle this kind of idiocy. "
All this shit you just typed DOES NOT ADDRESS THAT POINT.
You whine about logic, but your claims have no logical basis. I didn't claim requiring background checks at gun shows wouldn't take guns off the street when you brought it up, but even if I had, actually, that statement I didn't make IS TRUE. All guns that GET ON the street in the first place are already background checked. Preventing someone from buying it that is legally ineligible from buying it doesn't remove the gun from the street.
Do you not see how inane your statements are? Screaming about logic when you make WHOLLY IRRATIONAL CLAIMS and call people liars for things that aren't actually untrue?
"It's speculating, no, flat out LYING to suggest that closing the gun show loop hole wouldn't reduce suicides."
No, it isn't. It is perhaps speculating to a degree, but certainly not lying. (Incidentally, this bit where you called me a liar is where decorum went out the window.) Otherwise I would be wrong about the CDC data.