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Catherina

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20. He does indeed and Snowden challenged him to take this opportunity
Wed Jun 19, 2013, 01:18 PM
Jun 2013

I wish he would but I don't see that happening.

And Obama's problem right now is bigger than just the US because people all over the world are upset, more than we are, that the US dares to collect information on billions of private citizens. And governments over the fact that the US dares to hack into their universities, their hospitals even! One thing Snowden said that made him ill was that the NSA would hack into hospitals, research centers, and when they'd make a mistake whole systems would go down. Whoops right? And the world business community concerned about industrial espionage for reasons of intellectual property theft. Those are just some examples. The outrage hasn't even begun and I don't think the trust is coming back anytime soon because the disregard for the entire world that all your data, all your research, all your secrets belong to us, is massive.

The status quo doesn't help the country, or the party, or us like you said but I don't think they're thinking that way. The bottom line is profit and to make an international profit, well you know the rest.

I wish he would. Does he have the courage? So far he hasn't shown it.




“Being called a traitor by Dick Cheney,” he said, “is the highest honor you can give an American, and the more panicked talk we hear from people like him, (Democratic Party Senator Dianne) Feinstein, and (Republican Representative Peter) King, the better off we all are. If they had taught a class on how to be the kind of citizen Dick Cheney worries about, I would have finished high school.”


This disclosure provides Obama an opportunity to appeal for a return to sanity, constitutional policy, and the rule of law rather than men. He still has plenty of time to go down in history as the President who looked into the abyss and stepped back, rather than leaping forward into it. I would advise he personally call for a special committee to review these interception programs, repudiate the dangerous "State Secrets" privilege, and, upon preparing to leave office, begin a tradition for all Presidents forthwith to demonstrate their respect for the law by appointing a special investigator to review the policies of their years in office for any wrongdoing. There can be no faith in government if our highest offices are excused from scrutiny - they should be setting the example of transparency.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023033003#post85

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Did anyone not read the article by Greenwald? kentuck Jun 2013 #1
ermmigawd! Glenn Greenwald! argleblarglebarg! KG Jun 2013 #2
Well-reasoned, cogent analysis. TransitJohn Jun 2013 #3
If you believe that, what can I say. I'm not exactly Einstein, but closeupready Jun 2013 #4
I think it is rather obvious... kentuck Jun 2013 #5
Oh, ok, good - I misread your take on this. closeupready Jun 2013 #6
its not like the surveillance state is putting people on edge? Monkie Jun 2013 #7
Well reasoned. The Senate Intelligence Committee and Holder need to go asap Catherina Jun 2013 #8
I think the people are truly bothered by this issue. kentuck Jun 2013 #11
I don't believe this POTUS, or a future one, nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #12
I have read.. kentuck Jun 2013 #13
Seneca went into it, yes nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #14
He does indeed and Snowden challenged him to take this opportunity Catherina Jun 2013 #20
Someday we will regret it if he does not... kentuck Jun 2013 #21
Determined expansion is what I'm seeing too. Catherina Jun 2013 #25
I hate to say it nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #30
''If you are a US person...'' Octafish Jun 2013 #9
That's a state secret, like everything else in this transparency n/t Catherina Jun 2013 #10
The warrantless wiretapping is on international calls. FarCenter Jun 2013 #15
But didn't the "whistleblower" dispute those facts? kentuck Jun 2013 #16
No, read Greenwald's blog carefully -- he is trying to conflate domestic and international calling. FarCenter Jun 2013 #17
How did you interpret this? kentuck Jun 2013 #24
The preceding paragraph explained it FarCenter Jun 2013 #29
And that is the problem. kentuck Jun 2013 #31
I believe that they follow the law, since they have set up a whole procedure to monitor compliance FarCenter Jun 2013 #32
Who's policing compliance? HooptieWagon Jun 2013 #33
Anarchy? RobertEarl Jun 2013 #18
The elites in Congress and on both sides of the aisle are comfy, closeupready Jun 2013 #19
Did anyone notice? kentuck Jun 2013 #22
Astute observation. closeupready Jun 2013 #23
That would be interesting if correct. But it's not. Both parties are split on the issue. nt stevenleser Jun 2013 #27
actually, I noticed the anti-Obama people in the media, same as other smears & the BushPaulfamilyinc graham4anything Jun 2013 #28
Yes, the people supporting Obama's spying are in agreement with Bush, Cheney, Ari Fleischer... HooptieWagon Jun 2013 #34
That's quite a floodgate Snowden opened. Or rather so many floodgates. Catherina Jun 2013 #26
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