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JaneQPublic

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36. Yep, helicopters or even a panel truck parked on the curb.

Wed Jun 19, 2013, 02:43 PM

Jun 2013

Remotely piloted aircraft are a big advantage in war zones where there's a good chance a piloted aircraft might get shot down and the pilot killed. But if the "authorities" want to spy on average American citizens, they could get closer pictures, listen in on hidden mics, look in windows, etc. from just a bread truck parked on the corner loaded with surveillance equipment.

You're absolutely right, Geek. A drone wouldn't offer much more advantage to domestic spies than Google Earth.

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The Government Is Spying on America with Drones, Too [View all] Melinda Jun 2013 OP

Where? WovenGems Jun 2013 #1

not sure you are supposed to see them..thats the point. nt galileoreloaded Jun 2013 #4

Blue skies WovenGems Jun 2013 #11

oh for the love of reason. cali Jun 2013 #15

What's WovenGems Jun 2013 #16

I can't speak for others here, but I'm glad to speak for myself cali Jun 2013 #21

critical thinking would mean that one not wet their undergarments about remote control geek tragedy Jun 2013 #18

who's doing that? I'm certainly not. cali Jun 2013 #22

Who said they were used for "domestic spying?" nt geek tragedy Jun 2013 #24

what else would the FBI use them for? Do tell. cali Jun 2013 #27

Do you consider traffic and police helicopters "spying?" geek tragedy Jun 2013 #30

good catch! treestar Jun 2013 #59

Well, remember they 'spied' on Occupy Wall Street by geek tragedy Jun 2013 #60

People who are bringing up the fact that water is wet, government surveys and bears... uponit7771 Jun 2013 #31

Is that better or worse than other forms of surveillance? Buzz Clik Jun 2013 #2

FISC. Melinda Jun 2013 #5

Zero concern about Google Earth and other photographic surveillance... tridim Jun 2013 #20

I fucking hate google earth. cali Jun 2013 #25

You hate Google Earth? Why? Buzz Clik Jun 2013 #29

I have to say, I am somewhat disturbed by the whole Google Earth thing curlyred Jun 2013 #52

The Googlemobile snapped me four times mowing my lawn. My lawn!!! For the love of God! Buzz Clik Jun 2013 #28

Whereas police helicopters are AOK. nt geek tragedy Jun 2013 #3

And RC planes jberryhill Jun 2013 #6

RC planes are drones, no? nt geek tragedy Jun 2013 #10

I'm screwed, I have RC planes with cameras on them. tridim Jun 2013 #35

I believe in open laws and the Bill of Rights, not in casting nets. YMMV, however. Melinda Jun 2013 #7

How are drones offend the Constitution in a way that helicopters don't? nt geek tragedy Jun 2013 #8

Yep, helicopters or even a panel truck parked on the curb. JaneQPublic Jun 2013 #36

Also, surveillance of public areas isn't exactly spying nt geek tragedy Jun 2013 #37

Indeed. (nt) JaneQPublic Jun 2013 #42

At least they aren't killing Americans with drones. The Link Jun 2013 #9

Oh, wait. Melinda Jun 2013 #23

Well not in the USA yet, to the best of our knowledge. avaistheone1 Jun 2013 #64

Looks like drone industry needs to increase campaign $ to DiFi. HooptieWagon Jun 2013 #12

lol, my exact thought after reading the article. Melinda Jun 2013 #26

FBI director says 22 people have access to surveillance database uncovered by Snowden Catherina Jun 2013 #13

You know what I'm a bit confused on? Melinda Jun 2013 #32

They converged after 9-11. The Bush people's main complaint was that they were to separate Catherina Jun 2013 #33

And yes, we need to vote Congress out and vote some decent people in Catherina Jun 2013 #34

Sigh. The FBI investigates acts of terrorism inside the U.S. Like the Boston bombing. DevonRex Jun 2013 #44

My question was rhetorical; I can be sarcastic at times. Melinda Jun 2013 #47

"The FBI couldn't get a FISA warrant on him though because he was a Green Card Holder" Citation? Melinda Jun 2013 #48

They can, but first have to prove membership in foreign terrorist organization or planning DevonRex Jun 2013 #49

Thanks. I'm a patient woman. Now that I know you'll supply it, I can wait at your leisure. Melinda Jun 2013 #51

LOL, I just posted it. DevonRex Jun 2013 #54

Finally. From my favorite law site, Cornell. A Wex article. DevonRex Jun 2013 #53

And waded through 50 USC... The pertinent parts DevonRex Jun 2013 #56

Now the definitions in FISA... DevonRex Jun 2013 #57

Thank you Devon treestar Jun 2013 #61

I have been trying to point it out. I just don't start OPs. DevonRex Jun 2013 #63

When did DU officially become Alex Jones' conspiracy hour? tridim Jun 2013 #14

It's been that way on and off again since 2001. geek tragedy Jun 2013 #17

This is my favorite Floyd_Gondolli Jun 2013 #38

Well, webcams are hijacked by hackers all the time. geek tragedy Jun 2013 #39

We are doomed, I tell ya! treestar Jun 2013 #62

I remember the Police Chief of Boston mentioned the possible use of drones for surveillance BenzoDia Jun 2013 #19

But, they're good drones, Melinda. Octafish Jun 2013 #40

Maybe not friendly but certainly useful... JaneQPublic Jun 2013 #46

Well then, that changes everything, doesn't it? Can I expect my pony soon? Melinda Jun 2013 #50

My Little Droney Octafish Jun 2013 #55

How would you like to be informed about this? randome Jun 2013 #41

uninformed citizens can't consent, and we are not a democracy for that reason. HiPointDem Jun 2013 #43

kr HiPointDem Jun 2013 #45

What are they looking for? treestar Jun 2013 #58