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In reply to the discussion: Former law abiding gun owner shoots wife over dinner [View all]AtheistCrusader
(33,982 posts)Why can't you keep what I am saying in focus. What the hell.
"If you agree that closing the gun show loophole would keep guns out of the wrong hands"
It would HELP, sure. Registration is better because it cuts down on unlawful grey/black market transition of a firearm from a lawful owner to an unlawful owner, in spite of a requirement for a background check. (Intentional straw purchasers do not report those sales)
"AND you believe that suicides by firearm increase when they're more readily available"
I agree there is a correlation between successful suicide and firearm availability and can cite studies to back that up. I cannot cite a study that says suicides increase when guns are more readily available. That was not my claim. Suicide, and successful suicide don't completely overlap.
"you have to believe that closing the gun show loop hole would reduce suicides by gun."
No. Because in order for me to believe that, I would have to believe that some statistically meaningful number of people that commit suicide shop at gun shows, buy from unlicensed sellers (private transfer) AND would fail a NICS check if one were performed.
And, I do not believe a statistically meaningful number of people fall under all three of those criteria simultaneously.
However, source of gun used in a suicide isn't something that has been collected, to my knowledge. (The data point I stated earlier 'does not appear to exist'. Correct me if I am wrong.)