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jaysunb

(11,856 posts)
Wed Jun 19, 2013, 09:18 PM Jun 2013

Whiteness, NSA Spying and the Irony of Racial Privilege [View all]

Crossposting from AA Group

Tim Wise

It’s not that I’m not angry.

It’s not that I’m not disturbed, even horrified by the fact that my government thinks it appropriate to spy on people, monitoring their phone calls — to whom we speak and when — among other tactics, all in the supposed service of the national interest.

That any government thinks it legitimate to so closely monitor its people is indicative of the inherent sickness of nation-states, made worse in the modern era, where the power to intrude into the most private aspects of our lives is more possible than ever, thanks to the data-gathering techniques made feasible by technological advance.

That said, I also must admit to a certain nonchalance in the face of the recent revelations about the National Security Agency’s snooping into phone records, and the dust-up over the leaking of the NSA’s program by Ed Snowden. And as I tried to figure out why I wasn’t more animated upon hearing the revelations — and, likewise, why so many others were — it struck me. Those who are especially chapped about the program, about the very concept of their government keeping tabs on them — in effect profiling them as potential criminals, as terrorists — are almost entirely those for whom shit like this is new: people who have never before been presumed criminal, up to no good, or worthy of suspicion.
In short, they are mostly white. And male. And middle-class or above. And most assuredly not Muslim.

http://www.timwise.org/2013/06/whiteness-nsa-spying-and-the-irony-of-racial-privilege/#more-2984

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always great to hear from Tim Wise JI7 Jun 2013 #1
ny's stop and frisk comes to mind. many have no problem with it Liberal_in_LA Jun 2013 #2
yes. The whole point is that. Whisp Jun 2013 #22
+1 gollygee Jun 2013 #25
+1, few were screaming this loud and long when it was known Muslims were under... uponit7771 Jun 2013 #3
the outrage is that it isn't "just them" JI7 Jun 2013 #5
DU was anti surveillance before anti surveillance was cool Fumesucker Jun 2013 #6
Yes, in fact many were supporting it. But we WERE screaming about it. Glenn Greenwald was sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #13
Muslim survelence ?! I doubt it went past 2 hours worth of DU posting uponit7771 Jun 2013 #28
The world doesn't consist of what happens on DU. Or maybe it does, for some. sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #29
Yes there was outrage, for about an hour or 2....no doubt people didn't like it btu didn't spend uponit7771 Jun 2013 #30
DURec leftstreet Jun 2013 #4
My God... sibelian Jun 2013 #7
Those who are especially chapped are white males? Skip Intro Jun 2013 #8
It is a last resort deflection Puzzledtraveller Jun 2013 #14
a quote that rings true DonCoquixote Jun 2013 #9
"after all, if what I’m saying doesn’t apply to you, why so defensive, buttercup?" redqueen Jun 2013 #11
Excellent post. And then there are the others who were speaking out about it when Bush sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #15
I wouldn't go so far as to say the Clintons are racist. Whisp Jun 2013 #24
yep grantcart Jun 2013 #10
K&R. redqueen Jun 2013 #12
Lots of posturing going on. If you have always spoken out against these abuses and still are, sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #16
Yes, totally, that says it, thank you. nt bemildred Jun 2013 #17
This just in. People of Color don't care about the NSA and what it does MNBrewer Jun 2013 #18
Only as much as 'they're calling me racist!' is a take home message redqueen Jun 2013 #19
I don't treat Obama any differently over his Surveillance State than I did Bush MNBrewer Jun 2013 #23
Comparing the way he is treated by dems to the way Bush is treated by dems is not a fair comparison. redqueen Jun 2013 #26
I don't think he IS being treated differently by Dems MNBrewer Jun 2013 #27
Wise. Whisp Jun 2013 #20
K&R Solly Mack Jun 2013 #21
OK, so I am jaded, and perhaps a bit paranoid FrodosPet Jun 2013 #31
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