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In reply to the discussion: If it's not racism, then what is it? [View all]Drunken Irishman
(34,857 posts)Saying you think Obama favors corporations a great deal of the time is not an irrational argument. It might not be something I agree with, but it's presented in a way where you can have a rational debate. But stating he's a corporatist is as irrational as calling him a Marxist because the intent isn't to debate, it's to flame. That's the difference. Saying you're displeased with Obama's policies is one thing. Saying he's a homophobe or a corporatist or a fascist doesn't help advance any point and it tells me you're not a rational person and there is no debate to be had. I wouldn't debate with Glenn Beck because I don't think he's a rational person. I've come to that conclusion not because I disagree with him (hell, he's called Obama a corporatist too) but because he doesn't engage in any debate. It's always venom with him. It's always tearing him down and never admitting when he's done something good. It's using coded words that elicit anger and hatred - but don't really say anything.
That's what DU has become as of late. Just throwing out words that have little substance and are only used to attack - not show displeasure or disappointment.
Hinting that Obama might possibly have killed Michael Hastings is in no way rational. And unfortunately, I've already seen it pop up here and on twitter and I'm sure it'll become a common talking point at both Alex Jones' website and some other liberal websites. You've already got Cenk Uygur, who is a very popular media personality here, hinting that his death doesn't pass the smell test. That type of rhetoric is toxic and doesn't do anyone any good because it just fuels this image that Obama is a killer. Hell, I've heard people say he droned Hastings. Irrational.
What drives this irrationality? I'll give you that it might not be racism but the rhetoric used against Obama, even if it comes from the left, can at times rival that of the rhetoric used from the right ... and I know that is fueled by racism. So, if it's not racism, why the constant hatred of Obama? There is disappointment and then there is hatred. You can tell the difference. Those who hate Obama have no problem using lethal language to get their point across - just like the Glenn Becks of the world.