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SidDithers

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Thu Jun 20, 2013, 09:06 AM Jun 2013

Antivaccine versus anti-GMO: Different goals, same methods [View all]

Countering ideologically motivated bad science, pseudoscience, misinformation, and lies is one of the main purposes of this blog. Specifically, we try to combat such misinformation in medicine; elsewhere Steve and I, as well as some of our other “partners in crime” combat other forms of pseudoscience. During the nearly five year existence of this blog, we’ve covered a lot of topics in medicine that tend to be prone to pseudoscience and quackery. Oddly enough, there’s one topic that we haven’t really written much about at all, and that’s genetically modified organisms (GMOs). GMOs, as you know, are proliferating, and it’s quite worth discussing the potential and risks of this new technology, just as it is worthwhile to discuss the potential benefits versus the risks of any new technology that can impact our health, not to mention the health of the planet. Unfortunately, GMOs have become a huge political issue, and, I would argue, they have become just as prone to pseudoscience, misinformation, and bad science as vaccines, with a radical group of anti-GMO activists who are as anti-science as any antivaccinationist or quack.

Leave it to that quackery promoter to rule all quackery promoters, Mike Adams, to give me just the opportunity to show you what I mean. Over the last couple of weeks, Mike has been in a fine lather about GMOs, with multiple posts with titles such as The GMO debate is over; GM crops must be immediately outlawed; Monsanto halted from threatening humanity and The evil of Monsanto and GMOs explained: Bad technology, endless greed and the destruction of humanity. In other words, it’s a series of post with Adams’ typical hyperbole. If you were to believe him, GMOs are the product of a plot by Satan, Monsanto, big pharma, and the government, and he’s not sure which one of these is the most evil of the bunch.

Not to be outdone, that other quackery supporter vying with Mike Adams to be the quackery supporter to rule all quackery supporters, Joe Mercola, also weighed in with a post entitled First-Ever Lifetime Feeding Study Finds Genetically Engineered Corn Causes Massive Tumors, Organ Damage, and Early Death. It also turns out that Mike Adams had pontificated about this very same study a couple of days before Mercola with a title equally ominous, Shock findings in new GMO study: Rats fed lifetime of GM corn grow horrifying tumors, 70% of females die early. Whenever I see the cranks pile on a study like this, my curiosity is piqued. I also noticed that Steve Novella had already discussed the study that had this not-so-dynamic duo in such a frothy lather. Of course, as you know, that a blogger as awesome as our fearless leader had covered a topic never stopped me from pontificating about the very same study before (well, actually, it has, but in this case it wasn’t enough to stop me). Besides, these sorts of studies are right up my alley, given that I’m a cancer researcher, and the study being touted as “smoking gun” evidence that GMOs are pure evil is such a an incompetently designed and performed study that it actually irritated me more than the usual bit of bad science that I discuss on occasion.

There’s a lot in common between anti-GMO activists and antivaccine activists. Perhaps the most prominent similarity is philosophical. Both groups fetishize the naturalistic fallacy, otherwise known as the belief that if it’s “natural” it must be good (or at least better than anything man-made or “artificial”). In the case of antivaccine activists, the immune response caused by vaccines is somehow “unnatural” and therefore harmful and evil, even though the mechanisms by which the immune system responds to vaccines are the same or similar to how it responds to “natural” antigens. That’s the whole idea, to stimulate the immune system to think that you’ve had the disease without actually giving you the disease, thus stimulating long term immunity to the actual disease! In the case of anti-GMO activists, the same idea appears to prevail, namely that, because GMOS are somehow “unnatural,” they must be harmful and evil. That’s not to say that they might not have problems and issues that need to be dealt with, but the apocalyptic language used by many of the anti-GMO activists like Mike Adams and Joe Mercola is so far over-the-top that it is very much like the language of the antivaccine movement. In fact, not surprisingly, antivaccinationists are often anti-GMO as well, and vice-versa, an example of crank magnetism in action. Indeed, Joe Mercola himself is one of the biggest backers of California Proposition 37, which would require the labeling of GMO-based food, having donated $1.1 million so far.


http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/antivaccine-versus-anti-gmo-different-goals-same-methods/

Sid



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K & R. n/t FSogol Jun 2013 #1
+1 K&R. nt. graham4anything Jun 2013 #2
Happy to K & R Orrex Jun 2013 #3
R&K nt longship Jun 2013 #4
Yeah. bunnies Jun 2013 #5
Are you worried about the GMOs or the pesticides? Buzz Clik Jun 2013 #9
For me, its the pesticides. bunnies Jun 2013 #11
.. Buzz Clik Jun 2013 #20
:) bunnies Jun 2013 #29
Round-up is not poisonous to animals FarCenter Jun 2013 #10
Thats great for animals... bunnies Jun 2013 #12
Actually, you are an animal - all humans are FarCenter Jun 2013 #15
well... bunnies Jun 2013 #19
This is from the same team that did the later discredited study on GMO corn FarCenter Jun 2013 #32
ok. Heres another. A new US study: bunnies Jun 2013 #35
Condemning Monsanto With Bad Science Is Dumb FarCenter Jun 2013 #37
"harmful if swallowed or inhaled" bunnies Jun 2013 #38
Standard "our lawyers made us say that" text. FarCenter Jun 2013 #39
but Im not an animal AlbertCat Jun 2013 #22
Like the study I already posted? bunnies Jun 2013 #25
Typical biotech bully- always ready to ridicule and intimidate Tumbulu May 2014 #47
Indeed. But DU still doesn't understand that reality. HuckleB Mar 2015 #58
Debate error WovenGems Jun 2013 #6
I disagree. I think both attitudes are the result of unfounded fear based on bad science. Buzz Clik Jun 2013 #8
Wrong WovenGems Jun 2013 #14
You're conflating health issues with business practices. Buzz Clik Jun 2013 #21
I find that people who are unethical in one form mythology Jun 2013 #30
well I'll be damned.... mike_c Jun 2013 #7
I'm still skeptical of GMO's and trying to educate myself on this subject. mountain grammy Jun 2013 #13
Science Based Medicine is a great site... SidDithers Jun 2013 #18
How about Ben Goldacre MattBaggins Jun 2013 #33
I know the name, but haven't read much of his stuff... SidDithers Jun 2013 #34
He is fair in his treatment MattBaggins Jun 2013 #36
Big REC and KICK! n/t zappaman Jun 2013 #16
well FFS dithers SwampG8r Jun 2013 #17
Similar invective was used for those opposed to the unabated use of fossil fuels whatchamacallit Jun 2013 #23
Why would you compare ignorant people to a conglomerates agenda? Rex Jun 2013 #24
That's not the message in the article at all... SidDithers Jun 2013 #26
Oh I see, missed that completely. Rex Jun 2013 #28
The comments are just as interesting as article ismnotwasm Jun 2013 #27
K&R nt Progressive dog Jun 2013 #31
Typical tactic, always trying to paint Tumbulu Jun 2013 #40
Since GMOs are the most studied form of plants in existence. HuckleB May 2014 #41
Fiction?????? Tumbulu May 2014 #42
LOL! HuckleB May 2014 #43
oh a mighty list of articles that no one can access! How wonderful and useful! Tumbulu May 2014 #44
Peer reviewed research that matters. HuckleB May 2014 #45
Oh yes, resort to the old put downs trying always to ridicule others. Tumbulu May 2014 #46
You played games. HuckleB May 2014 #48
You have the GAUL to make such an accusation?!!! Tumbulu May 2014 #49
I'm not the one who is lying, and I am not the one who is bullying. HuckleB May 2014 #50
Peer reviewed studies? COLGATE4 May 2014 #51
How do you know anything about me? Tumbulu May 2014 #52
Do you continue to make claims that you cannot support? HuckleB May 2014 #53
You exhibit all the typical qualities of the gmo rude squad Tumbulu May 2014 #54
Name one thing I have written that is not true. HuckleB May 2014 #55
Everything you write seems to cover it (nt). Tumbulu May 2014 #56
As usual you simply offer up a grand statement with no evidence. HuckleB May 2014 #57
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