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68. When you are forced to attack the imaginary motivations of critics you have nothing left...

Thu Jun 20, 2013, 08:21 AM

Jun 2013

President Obama is an extremely charismatic man. He's intelligent, handsome, and a fantastic speaker. Beyond this, if you are a liberal at any rate, there is not much positive to say. The guy is a serial liar, and in every possible way a disaster -- both for our party and for anyone who believes in civil rights and a government restrained by laws. It is becoming increasingly difficult to point to any major policy on which he has not lied, or any liberal position he actually holds.

Simply put, President Obama is W without the smirk. The same motivations, same lies, same disregard for the constitution and civil rights, same indifference to the poor and desperate. That they are virtually identical should come as no surprise; both men work for the same small group of people.

I do not say these things because I am lost in a maze of irratrional hatred for the man. I don't hate him at all. I don't even dislike him. The only bitterness I feel is directed at myself for falling for it.

It won't happen again.

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It's hate. Period. [View all] ProSense Jun 2013 OP

100% correct. Highly r&k. Five touchdowns in a row to win the game. graham4anything Jun 2013 #1

That's a field goal. Puzzledtraveller Jun 2013 #16

it's 2 1/2 times more better than a FG, so I said TD to make a point. graham4anything Jun 2013 #24

a touchdown is worth exactly two field goals eom TransitJohn Jun 2013 #128

haaahahaha progressoid Jun 2013 #167

You benefit emotionally from that position... sibelian Jun 2013 #2

I think she's correct. Buzz Clik Jun 2013 #4

political correctness daybranch Jun 2013 #38

This what is the problem..... davidpdx Jun 2013 #55

+1 Buzz Clik Jun 2013 #3

Personality Politics. A sure sign of desperation. blkmusclmachine Jun 2013 #417

K&R baldguy Jun 2013 #5

The wealthiest have gained $5 trillion since Obama took office MannyGoldstein Jun 2013 #6

So true Puzzledtraveller Jun 2013 #14

Obama will be seen as the Hoover of our times. JW2020 Jun 2013 #21

Actually... MannyGoldstein Jun 2013 #29

You prove the point. ProSense Jun 2013 #47

The author pointed out that Obama was slavishly following Hoover's policies, and MannyGoldstein Jun 2013 #70

Apparently when an author makes a prediction that later becomes true, he's not being astute. EOTE Jun 2013 #111

Yeah we should look at Obama's accomplishments in the US Senate JW2020 Jun 2013 #72

don't be a ... AtomicKitten Jun 2013 #230

Yep, they had him all figured out 3 months into his presidency. mountain grammy Jun 2013 #118

I wasnt here then, but I would imagine DU was full of Bush Critics quakerboy Jun 2013 #415

This message was self-deleted by its author ProSense Jun 2013 #51

No, Hoover caused a depression and cut taxes. Quite the opposite from this President. JaneyVee Jun 2013 #32

Incorrect JW2020 Jun 2013 #42

How many Jobs Bills must Republicans block before we start blaming Congress? JaneyVee Jun 2013 #45

It's not that One's job to blame Congress. It's here to blame President Obama. BlueCaliDem Jun 2013 #365

So when Shrub was president did we blame him or Congress? nt backwoodsbob Jun 2013 #413

I wouldn't say he did nothing, just that what he did was woefully insufficient. EOTE Jun 2013 #114

That is a bizarre claim, JWnumbers... Buzz Clik Jun 2013 #222

You know what's interesting: ProSense Jun 2013 #23

We're in a depression, and Obama sups regularly with Jamie and Lloyd, MannyGoldstein Jun 2013 #39

On pace for "strongest annual rate for private sector job growth since 1999" ProSense Jun 2013 #53

"Number of homeless students hits new record" MannyGoldstein Jun 2013 #83

Digging into recent poverty data ProSense Jun 2013 #92

I don't see anything that tells us how many of those with health insurance can afford to use it. dflprincess Jun 2013 #395

What world are you living in? L0oniX Jun 2013 #338

The one ProSense Jun 2013 #342

The one where a lot of "real" people are unemployed. L0oniX Jun 2013 #426

Are you unemployed? ProSense Jun 2013 #432

Do you speak for all employed people? L0oniX Jun 2013 #434

No, I don't. ProSense Jun 2013 #435

I support my dissabled wife with a part time job making $275 a week. L0oniX Jun 2013 #436

Good for you, and ProSense Jun 2013 #437

you seem to have a full-time job on DU Skittles Jul 2013 #490

who do you think you are influencing with your flame bait? Kolesar Jun 2013 #349

That wealth has become even more insanely concentrated to the ultra wealthy under Obama is a red EOTE Jun 2013 #117

Honest question, please don't attack me: "enabler"? Isn't what calls itself "the Left" PUSHING him patrice Jun 2013 #403

Better not criticize those things or you'll be labelled a hateful racist. Scuba Jun 2013 #26

You sound like a Democrat. Octafish Jun 2013 #119

Bush and Cheney are walking around free men and Cheney is even bragging about HardTimes99 Jun 2013 #120

My goodness, but chervilant Jun 2013 #294

Well, it's all part and parcel of normalizing two different HardTimes99 Jun 2013 #309

No, it isn't. chervilant Jun 2013 #381

Embrace it or be cast as a Obama hating racist. zeemike Jun 2013 #152

Hater! SammyWinstonJack Jun 2013 #157

You're just an irrational racist hater. progressoid Jun 2013 #175

I Can't Believe Obama Hasn't Singlehandedly Solved Every Problem Already! Skraxx Jun 2013 #182

Yea, Obama has sulphurdunn Jun 2013 #335

Yeah! Screw Congress! Obama just Needs to Make His Own Laws! Skraxx Jun 2013 #450

It's called politics. sulphurdunn Jun 2013 #461

Yeah, He's Not LEANING Hard Enough! That's All He Has Do! LEAN DAMMIT!! LEAN! Skraxx Jun 2013 #476

Unfortunately, sulphurdunn Jun 2013 #478

No, He's Not LEANING Dammit! That's All It Takes for A President To Get Anything Done! Skraxx Jun 2013 #479

I think he's trying sulphurdunn Jun 2013 #480

Oh, Do Tell! You Mind Reader, You! What Is At The Gooey Center Of Obama's Dark Soul? Skraxx Jun 2013 #481

Are you really so naieve sulphurdunn Jun 2013 #482

Yes! I, Like You, I Naively Believe That He JUST Isn't TRYING Hard Enough!! It's All About The Skraxx Jun 2013 #483

Why do you hate ProSense? ...uhm er I mean Obama? L0oniX Jun 2013 #339

you're supposed to be grateful for the incremental good and not notice the meat cleaver of bad yurbud Jun 2013 #361

How can you complain about the Texas Chainsaw Massacre when Leatherface cut you some wood too? yurbud Jun 2013 #362

Personally I do criticize the president and I feel that since I voted for him twice and he's Arcanetrance Jun 2013 #7

Just wait a few seconds vi5 Jun 2013 #10

Your hatred is indefensible, quit trying to justify it Puzzledtraveller Jun 2013 #12

You know what these posts remind me of? vi5 Jun 2013 #15

Apparently, a Democratic president isn't allowed to be a mixed bag. Orsino Jun 2013 #202

You're absolutely right. vi5 Jun 2013 #8

Many of us were very, very angry at Clinton MannyGoldstein Jun 2013 #13

Psssst..... vi5 Jun 2013 #17

You sly little fox you. tblue Jun 2013 #186

Elizabeth Warren's long career in the senate 100% depends on supporting Obama. You do realize that, graham4anything Jun 2013 #35

Only 4 years in the Senate for Warren, sorry. MannyGoldstein Jun 2013 #44

She can only win with Barack Obama's voters. Which is why HE won in 2008. graham4anything Jun 2013 #48

They aren't HIS voters. That's absurd. And incredibly insulting. cali Jun 2013 #58

Yes they are. When 95% of the President Obama voters support him and Hillary, graham4anything Jun 2013 #62

If there were no term limits JW2020 Jun 2013 #79

I want to see President Hillary Clinton in 2017-2018 name him to the US Supreme Court graham4anything Jun 2013 #90

But you always say JW2020 Jun 2013 #95

SCOTUS in 2018 is far more important to fill the Thurgood Marshall seat that never was. graham4anything Jun 2013 #97

You didn't answer my question JW2020 Jun 2013 #103

If there's one think you can be absolutely sure of, Hillary Clinton will NEVER hughee99 Jun 2013 #225

you misread. President Hillary will nominate Barack Obama to the US Supreme Court in 2017-18. graham4anything Jun 2013 #228

My apologies. hughee99 Jun 2013 #232

LOL pocoloco Jun 2013 #141

The next president will be a democratic president. The smear jobs are not resonating. graham4anything Jun 2013 #193

Why not? She filled the CFPB with bankers frazzled Jun 2013 #211

Interesting points. MannyGoldstein Jun 2013 #391

Not a banker one. malokvale77 Jun 2013 #346

Really? Perhaps you missed this: SomethingFishy Jun 2013 #164

Should be the other way around. Jakes Progress Jun 2013 #300

No, Warren is a TRUE progressive, unlike that corporatist Obama. alarimer Jun 2013 #315

More ProSense Jun 2013 #41

I think there are plenty of things to be angry at about Clinton davidpdx Jun 2013 #64

NAFTA Vanje Jun 2013 #188

I personally don't think NAFTA was among the worst davidpdx Jun 2013 #355

Was that at the DU forum where you were told that you were haters? Major Hogwash Jun 2013 #91

Respectfully disagree. H2O Man Jun 2013 #19

Psssst... vi5 Jun 2013 #20

You are good. H2O Man Jun 2013 #28

The more I think of 1980, the more I wonder graham4anything Jun 2013 #37

THAT shit happens. DINOs are nothing new. nt patrice Jun 2013 #406

That is how sarcasm is done. NCTraveler Jun 2013 #22

Do you really mean that or.... Jeff In Milwaukee Jun 2013 #27

That is how gratuitous exaggeration is done. Bobbie Jo Jun 2013 #398

That was good Puzzledtraveller Jun 2013 #36

total revisionist history Enrique Jun 2013 #98

Uh...... vi5 Jun 2013 #136

oh ok Enrique Jun 2013 #148

Nobody on the Left criticized Clinton??????????? Beacool Jun 2013 #144

Kidding vi5 Jun 2013 #161

Well, given the highly volatile feelings of some over this issue, Beacool Jun 2013 #173

Are you kidding!!?? Vanje Jun 2013 #184

Obama's actions are not Clintons actions AgingAmerican Jun 2013 #301

I was being sarcastic, but that's my point exactly vi5 Jun 2013 #311

Bull. n/t leeroysphitz Jun 2013 #9

I know it makes it easier for people that worship the guy to think everyone hates him. The Link Jun 2013 #11

He reminds me of milquetoast. JW2020 Jun 2013 #34

"whiffed" truebluegreen Jun 2013 #137

This is sadly true AgingAmerican Jun 2013 #303

Not only is it bullshit and disgusting choie Jun 2013 #18

Right, ProSense Jun 2013 #30

Can't even mention Obama's legacy without mentioning UNPRECEDENTED REPUBLICAN OBSTRUCTION JaneyVee Jun 2013 #25

People do tend to brush the HappyMe Jun 2013 #50

I doubt there is anyone here prepared to overlook the outrageous behavior truebluegreen Jun 2013 #145

I didn't say anything in my post about "hate". HappyMe Jun 2013 #153

My apologies. truebluegreen Jun 2013 #178

But we can all celebrate . . . markpkessinger Jun 2013 #422

I think race has very little to do with it. aikoaiko Jun 2013 #31

Come visit me some time. Major Hogwash Jun 2013 #74

Right, but they said nearly the same things about Bill Clintoon aikoaiko Jun 2013 #237

Of course it doesn't. HooptieWagon Jun 2013 #314

DU rec...nt SidDithers Jun 2013 #33

People do tend to hate being spied upon, especially Americans usGovOwesUs3Trillion Jun 2013 #40

+1 Puzzledtraveller Jun 2013 #54

Americans hate to be spied upon. NOLALady Jun 2013 #109

Exactly usGovOwesUs3Trillion Jun 2013 #130

American Idol, Dancing with the Stars, America's Got Talent, America's Funniest Home Videos Major Hogwash Jun 2013 #133

"watches" = "spying"? truebluegreen Jun 2013 #150

Well, we're not Germans. We're Americans! Major Hogwash Jun 2013 #159

Well, that made my head spin. truebluegreen Jun 2013 #364

This is such garbage: cali Jun 2013 #43

Shit, if Hillary did the exact same things, the criticism would be 10 fold harsher. The Link Jun 2013 #46

I tend to agree with that. cali Jun 2013 #49

but that would be mysogynistic markiv Jun 2013 #96

Oh? Re: John Edwards Vanje Jun 2013 #190

John Edwards was HappyMe Jun 2013 #210

as has been pointed out, we would all be painted as mysoginistic ageists.. frylock Jun 2013 #206

You are correct. Ever since she became first lady in 1989 Hillary Clinton totodeinhere Jun 2013 #209

this is, perhaps, the single best example of real Obama Derangement Syndrome ever posted. xchrom Jun 2013 #52

You're right ProSense Jun 2013 #56

+1 graham4anything Jun 2013 #63

Its the result of worshipping a person rather than maintaining a set of ideals. The Link Jun 2013 #59

or rationality. nt xchrom Jun 2013 #60

Agreed xchrom MuseRider Jun 2013 #65

Perhaps "most people" OrwellwasRight Jun 2013 #306

I agree. MuseRider Jun 2013 #318

I agree. You said it best. Notafraidtoo Jun 2013 #420

Where do you live? Major Hogwash Jun 2013 #82

some of those complaining about racism also cheerlead the droning of innocent muslims Monkie Jun 2013 #99

Prosense is not cheerleading a damned thing. Major Hogwash Jun 2013 #105

i did not mention prosense, why are you speaking for prosense? Monkie Jun 2013 #115

Really? It's illegal now? Sez who? YOU!!! Major Hogwash Jun 2013 #126

i'm sorry, but neither obama, or prosense, get to decide international law Monkie Jun 2013 #143

Let me be sure I understand: you maintain that the drone strikes are 'legal'? If so, upon what HardTimes99 Jun 2013 #168

Call your congressman right now!! OMG!!!!! Major Hogwash Jun 2013 #174

so you complain about racism and laugh at illegal drone strikes on muslims Monkie Jun 2013 #238

I, for one, am glad to see mention of international law, especially if it also relates to patrice Jun 2013 #410

Very important (and sad) point. deurbano Jun 2013 #127

it is tragic, and owned wholly by obama as you say Monkie Jun 2013 #147

The 17th-Century French wit La Rochefoucauld quipped that HardTimes99 Jun 2013 #158

the french were often ahead of the times Monkie Jun 2013 #170

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ this ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^!!!! westerebus Jun 2013 #89

^^ Thread win. n/t winter is coming Jun 2013 #139

This message was self-deleted by its author frylock Jun 2013 #207

What a rude post. Zoeisright Jun 2013 #278

In a post calling people racists... BrotherIvan Jun 2013 #316

+1 n/t FreeState Jun 2013 #379

Piffle. 99Forever Jun 2013 #57

You really think if Clinton passed the ACA he would be praised as one of the greatest... NCTraveler Jun 2013 #61

I always knew that electing the first african american president was proof of how racist markiv Jun 2013 #66

Utter and absolute bullshit. This isn't American Idol. NRaleighLiberal Jun 2013 #67

Spare me. You're ProSense Jun 2013 #77

like I said....this is an extremely disappointing OP to read - I expect you to be above this. NRaleighLiberal Jun 2013 #78

More obfuscation. n/t ProSense Jun 2013 #80

It's bottom feeding AgingAmerican Jun 2013 #305

When you are forced to attack the imaginary motivations of critics you have nothing left... Demo_Chris Jun 2013 #68

Yes, ProSense Jun 2013 #71

Well, there are differences... Demo_Chris Jun 2013 #134

and for me I wish it wasn't the case Puzzledtraveller Jun 2013 #87

All criticism of Obama should be a hate crime markiv Jun 2013 #69

Criticism of Obama is already considered a thought crime JW2020 Jun 2013 #73

the answer to thought crime (crimethink) is crimestop markiv Jun 2013 #85

The faculty of stopping short, as though by instinct, at the threshold of any dangerous thought Monkie Jun 2013 #107

why? he already did markiv Jun 2013 #112

i was just struck by the beautiful agony of those words Monkie Jun 2013 #121

If you need my permission to criticize Obama, go ahead ProSense Jun 2013 #86

Wow Elizabeth Warren does not think there is a magic wand treestar Jun 2013 #75

Strong rec and 2 points: ucrdem Jun 2013 #76

whoa, if Obama is starting to lose Daily KOS, a site that was basically a huge fan site of his, quinnox Jun 2013 #81

no, Daily KOS is infected with crimethink markiv Jun 2013 #88

k&r... spanone Jun 2013 #84

Thankyou, Prosense! Whisp Jun 2013 #93

IMO, Obama's critics here are mostly sincere, as are his defenders BeyondGeography Jun 2013 #94

Great points, and ProSense Jun 2013 #100

Or anyone in power, for that matter BeyondGeography Jun 2013 #125

I have never seen you do anything that remotely supports your claim that cali Jun 2013 #149

I always ProSense Jun 2013 #165

You speak for me, in all but . . . patrice Jun 2013 #462

You need to change your name to NonSense. Apophis Jun 2013 #101

I'm not going to, but thanks for the silly suggestion. n/t ProSense Jun 2013 #122

Oh my gosh! tblue Jun 2013 #155

Thanks you ProSense! One of the 99 Jun 2013 #102

this must be a crisis situation for Obama Enrique Jun 2013 #104

I don't think ProSense Jun 2013 #108

This message was self-deleted by its author bobduca Jun 2013 #163

Excellent! Scurrilous Jun 2013 #106

"at least allow others to offer a counterpoint without attacking them..." - Unbelievable! demwing Jun 2013 #110

Wait ProSense Jun 2013 #113

You are being purposefully obtuse demwing Jun 2013 #217

I heaven05 Jun 2013 #116

President Obama's consistant poll approval ratings prove the majority of Americans see beyond race. mikekohr Jun 2013 #123

that's pretty weak sauce, even for you. eom TransitJohn Jun 2013 #124

Well, if that's what you think, don't piss in the pot. Major Hogwash Jun 2013 #129

But it's fun!!! Puzzledtraveller Jun 2013 #135

No, it isn't. Period. truebluegreen Jun 2013 #131

It's desperate spin from an obnoxious partisan flack. Period. OnyxCollie Jun 2013 #132

Couldn't find the "trash thread" "trash these words" or the "ignore" button near the user's nickname Major Hogwash Jun 2013 #138

Maybe you should take your own advice Bradical79 Jun 2013 #197

Well, I have to admit that when I tell someone to go take a flying leap . . . Major Hogwash Jun 2013 #205

Gee, not again............. Beacool Jun 2013 #140

or in the words of my Nanni, "Otra vez?!" Puzzledtraveller Jun 2013 #151

She could have added: Beacool Jun 2013 #166

Speaking of shills.... BrainDrain Jun 2013 #142

What you said. Beacool Jun 2013 #160

What you said...part 2 BrainDrain Jun 2013 #169

Exactly. Beacool Jun 2013 #176

Post removed Post removed Jun 2013 #216

"In a word: bullshit." bobduca Jun 2013 #146

LOL. You're desperate. DesMoinesDem Jun 2013 #154

I like you, ProSense, but we've disagreed before, and now. closeupready Jun 2013 #156

YAwn L0oniX Jun 2013 #162

3 quick questions for anyone who is +1 on this... allin99 Jun 2013 #171

William Binney: he is transitioning from whistle-blower to a traitor. Kolesar Jun 2013 #195

Alright, 1 down, "traitor", no word on the other 3 persons and aclu? allin99 Jun 2013 #198

Ha ha ... eom Kolesar Jun 2013 #234

Any word about when Binney said the prosecution should occur? Pholus Jun 2013 #259

and no word about the other 4 mentioned. not 1 word. infact... allin99 Jun 2013 #289

Inconvenient facts need to be ignored, hence your crickets. Pholus Jun 2013 #291

I went to work, Mr. Industrious Kolesar Jun 2013 #347

Don't worry yourself about my employment, thanks. Pholus Jun 2013 #394

Thank you. EC Jun 2013 #172

+1. And you're right, that's exactly what it's intended to do. freshwest Jun 2013 #474

this is just absurd.... mike_c Jun 2013 #177

Bulverisms do and not can not explain anything. Democracyinkind Jun 2013 #179

Possibly your most pitiful sales pitch yet. Marr Jun 2013 #180

+ zillions NRaleighLiberal Jun 2013 #181

Your one-line non-sentence is pitiful in its hollowness, Marr Kolesar Jun 2013 #192

This asinine post doesn't deserve a full sentence in reply. Marr Jun 2013 #199

Right back atcha. Zoeisright Jun 2013 #279

Indeed, she's set the bar low before LondonReign2 Jun 2013 #248

I no longer believe her to be a professional Skittles Jul 2013 #493

Franken's words adequately summarize the problem you're having. Pholus Jun 2013 #183

Everyone ProSense Jun 2013 #187

Da. Multiple quotes do exist from many people. Pholus Jun 2013 #191

It's thin skin AgingAmerican Jun 2013 #185

Obama has not had the strength to stand up to the national security JDPriestly Jun 2013 #189

A very good argument. Pholus Jun 2013 #196

I guess the republicans would have feasted on him more if he hadn'tsupported the surveillance Rosa Luxemburg Jun 2013 #384

Excellent, ProSense Jun 2013 #215

+1 Buzz Clik Jun 2013 #224

It is all a part of growth and change. JDPriestly Jun 2013 #288

Just wanted you to know.... Bobbie Jo Jun 2013 #286

Excellent Comment, Insightful Analysis, Well Done! Skraxx Jun 2013 #324

Post removed Post removed Jun 2013 #194

Woah. I'm no opologist but... allin99 Jun 2013 #213

Actually, Obama shows a spine when advocating Bush* policies and officials. HooptieWagon Jun 2013 #317

Not even worth replying to YoungDemCA Jun 2013 #200

Wish I could K&R more than once.. you've said what I could not express.. thank you!!!!!!!! secondwind Jun 2013 #201

Bull MNBrewer Jun 2013 #203

Lame as hell RZM Jun 2013 #204

When adults tell me they won't vote for him because of his skin color Rex Jun 2013 #208

Meh, I'm mostly indifferent to the president whatchamacallit Jun 2013 #212

He's so perfect. No one could actually *disagree* with him. dawg Jun 2013 #214

it's amazing how that fact escapes some people. Puzzledtraveller Jun 2013 #219

And donated money and knocked on doors! n-t Logical Jun 2013 #220

It's about coveting the struggle Floyd_Gondolli Jun 2013 #218

Well said. HappyMe Jun 2013 #226

And some wonder why quality people are not running for office. No support from their own. freshwest Jun 2013 #475

Your attitude is "You are with Obama or against Obama" Logical Jun 2013 #221

K&R! sheshe2 Jun 2013 #223

Well THAT makes it easier for me to explain. From now on, I'll just tell people I'm a racist. Throd Jun 2013 #227

Great post dennis4868 Jun 2013 #229

You conveniently forget that many of these same nice DU non-black folks you are calling racist Zorra Jun 2013 #231

No, ProSense Jun 2013 #235

Please, don't be deliberately obtuse. We've already seen that movie several times. nt Zorra Jun 2013 #240

Please don't post straw men arguments and expect affirmation. n/t ProSense Jun 2013 #243

Don't worry, I never expect you to sincerely acknowledge the real motivations Zorra Jun 2013 #247

Yeah, because unless ProSense Jun 2013 #253

"...unless I accept your straw man claims about my motivation, I'm being disingenuous." Marr Jun 2013 #255

Was that a ProSense Jun 2013 #256

Da, it appears to be trying to communicate as you do! Pholus Jun 2013 #261

Is that you? n/t ProSense Jun 2013 #262

Hmmmm, deep philosophical question! Pholus Jun 2013 #263

Yeah, ProSense Jun 2013 #265

Considering you're implying that the joint is in "past" tense, Pholus Jun 2013 #266

Fixed, laughing and typing does that. n/t ProSense Jun 2013 #267

Somehow I figured you did most of your communication with a mouse... nt Pholus Jun 2013 #270

and a clipboard bobduca Jun 2013 #433

*yawn* Wash. Rinse. Repeat. Just another propaganda technique among the many you use Zorra Jun 2013 #276

No, ProSense Jun 2013 #281

"weaselspeak" LOL Matariki Jun 2013 #449

Your whole OP is a strawman AgingAmerican Jun 2013 #308

You said what I couldn't put into words malokvale77 Jun 2013 #367

Matt Damon, where does he land on the spectrum? Babel_17 Jun 2013 #233

Thanks for this. Between the childish vitriol and the free pass for anti-feminist garbage, redqueen Jun 2013 #236

Damn. all those self loathing Racist that voted for Obama. bahrbearian Jun 2013 #239

K&R. Truth to power ProSense. great white snark Jun 2013 #241

bwahahaha. truth to power? seriously? oh my word. what power? cali Jun 2013 #244

The power of self deception Puzzledtraveller Jun 2013 #249

What power? The power of voodoo! Scootaloo Jun 2013 #252

UTTER BULLSHIT LondonReign2 Jun 2013 #242

No, I mean ProSense Jun 2013 #245

Your OP is utter tripe LondonReign2 Jun 2013 #251

Well, ProSense Jun 2013 #254

Yeah. 'Cause an OP titled "It's Hate. Period." totally means something else LondonReign2 Jun 2013 #258

I can't ProSense Jun 2013 #260

bwahahahahaha! too good! too funny! perfect. cali Jun 2013 #421

You forgot ProSense Jun 2013 #431

you're SO wrong and it is EXTREMELY insulting Skittles Jul 2013 #492

A-fucking men BumRushDaShow Jun 2013 #246

Twice the work for half the credit Scootaloo Jun 2013 #250

This takes the cake. Aerows Jun 2013 #257

Leftists and Liberals can be racists as well. Yavin4 Jun 2013 #264

Amazing post. Thanks for that. Number23 Jun 2013 #319

Please go post this JustAnotherGen Jun 2013 #353

I agree with this, except you should throw Libertarians into that mix, because there is synergy patrice Jun 2013 #404

We oughta send all the Whites back to Europe. Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2013 #429

I worked with them in a union job. They didn't like the EEOC shaking things up with Carter. freshwest Jun 2013 #472

And yet outside the hate bubble.. Cha Jun 2013 #268

You can't criticize the president because his father is from Africa? Not Sure Jun 2013 #269

If Africa is a continent, is Rand Paul's hair still weird looking? ProSense Jun 2013 #274

Its NOT "silly". It IS Desperation. bvar22 Jun 2013 #293

Well, ProSense Jun 2013 #297

What will ProSense do next? Junkdrawer Jun 2013 #271

I'm not certain how convoluted it could get after this Aerows Jun 2013 #272

I guess after a while the fallen cars tend to support rather than pull down the remaining cars... Junkdrawer Jun 2013 #273

Somebody can spin it. Aerows Jun 2013 #277

you have a way with analogies, Aerows! Skittles Jul 2013 #491

I take it Aerows Jul 2013 #494

I WILL KICK ANALOGYIZING AEROWS ASS Skittles Jul 2013 #495

I certainly hope you're not attributing those words to me. n/t ProSense Jun 2013 #275

You're right. s/b "concern trolls". Sorry. n/t Junkdrawer Jun 2013 #280

So you were and are trying to attribute those words to me? n/t ProSense Jun 2013 #282

Frankly, I've conflated you with some of the more extreme of Obama's defenders.... Junkdrawer Jun 2013 #285

Please, ProSense Jun 2013 #287

Here's one... Junkdrawer Jun 2013 #290

Thanks, but ProSense Jun 2013 #292

rewrite the Lord's Prayer? MisterP Jun 2013 #392

Unfortunately, "mind reading" is a common fallacy. ZombieHorde Jun 2013 #283

What you have described in your OP, my friend, is called The Black Tax. Liberal_Stalwart71 Jun 2013 #284

Indeed lib87 Jun 2013 #310

So when I say Obama should stop letting Holder arrest cancer patients for smoking pot, and that Warren DeMontague Jun 2013 #295

YEP! bvar22 Jun 2013 #323

Post removed Post removed Jun 2013 #296

^ this ^ n/t ProSense Jun 2013 #312

Not my fault that you have the thankless job of defending an undercover Republican. nt limpyhobbler Jun 2013 #325

Yeah, I was the only Democrat who supported his re-election. ProSense Jun 2013 #327

quit whining. Obama is a Republican. nominate somebody better next time. nt limpyhobbler Jun 2013 #328

OK, ProSense Jun 2013 #330

Care for some cheese with that exceptional whine ? limpyhobbler Jun 2013 #331

You're the one whining about Obama n/t ProSense Jun 2013 #343

Total crock of an OP. Jakes Progress Jun 2013 #298

Well, ProSense Jun 2013 #299

More crock. Jakes Progress Jun 2013 #387

No, ProSense Jun 2013 #396

Pottery Barn. Jakes Progress Jun 2013 #445

The OP is a strawman AgingAmerican Jun 2013 #313

+1000 OrwellwasRight Jun 2013 #447

The cult of personality felix_numinous Jun 2013 #302

This. Junkdrawer Jun 2013 #304

Hate !!!! Hate!!!!!! Hate!!!!!!! senseandsensibility Jun 2013 #374

Thank you. That states my functional foundation perfectly. Prioritizing political damage to Obama patrice Jun 2013 #399

Yes, I agree with much of this Jarla Jun 2013 #439

True. I hate when a govt official violates the 4th amendment. HooptieWagon Jun 2013 #307

... RetroLounge Jun 2013 #320

Hate in the form of subtle derision with a mask of disappointment flamingdem Jun 2013 #321

We need the unrec back at the DU. n-t Logical Jun 2013 #322

+1000000000 L0oniX Jun 2013 #336

K&R What is almost humorous about all of this is the people who for some reason feel compelled to Number23 Jun 2013 #326

ProSense has taken a beating for this JustAnotherGen Jun 2013 #337

Yep. I know alot of black people were thoroughly disgusted with his Sister Souljah comments Number23 Jun 2013 #340

Pandering yes JustAnotherGen Jun 2013 #345

The attackers "on the left" at DU are Republican trolls acting like leftists..eom Kolesar Jun 2013 #352

Really, some trolls who complain about Obama have been here 8 years? Wow, it was a long term plan? Logical Jun 2013 #363

zombies Kolesar Jun 2013 #366

It amazes me that some DU members are so enchanted with Obama that any complainer..... Logical Jun 2013 #371

Your first statement is a presumptuous loaded statement Kolesar Jun 2013 #372

Wow, taking advice from you would not be a good idea. I have read many of your posts. n-t Logical Jun 2013 #373

pretend skeptic Kolesar Jun 2013 #375

Half your posts makes no sense. n-t Logical Jun 2013 #377

eyeswideshut got 'stoned today. That asshole probably has another account to use. Kolesar Jun 2013 #368

Well, many people waste their time here. If they enjoy it who cares? n-t Logical Jun 2013 #376

DINOs are nothing new. nt patrice Jun 2013 #412

I sure hope so. Or libertarians acting like Democrats. They're not hiding it anymore which is good. freshwest Jun 2013 #470

Well duh, no one could disagree with you and not be a troll. Union Scribe Jun 2013 #471

It is for me. 'Smells like team spirit!' Except the song is great. This team, not so much. freshwest Jun 2013 #469

It absolutely is hate mwrguy Jun 2013 #329

Yes! Attack the Syphillitic Traitors! JackRiddler Jun 2013 #332

They must be getting desperate over there at the New Democrat Network brentspeak Jun 2013 #333

wow... sick fascisthunter Jun 2013 #334

Wow. East Coast Pirate Jun 2013 #341

We are constantly being told to expect a lot during the campaign.... Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2013 #344

There was some crossover vote in '08. I started worrying about it from the first that patrice Jun 2013 #416

Too many on the Left projected their own feelings upon Obama... Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2013 #427

Completely agree, but there is a point about a centrist of the type that Obama apparently is: patrice Jun 2013 #460

Lately the Dems act like their job is to drag the Republicans out of the ditch on the Right.... Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2013 #464

I feel certain there is more support for the authentic Left than most people know. I often make patrice Jun 2013 #465

In Kansas the Democrats think they need to learn about tractor pulls to win. Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2013 #466

If we could get just one safe but good ASS-KICKING Dem in here to embarass ALL of them!!! patrice Jun 2013 #467

Kucinich was the ONLY Democrat who used the "F" word... Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2013 #468

Interesting how much support for family farms I have seen here coming from patrice Jun 2013 #477

I guess you could find fault with anyone if you look hard enough... Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2013 #484

Indeed we can, so let's ALL of us just be straight up about that to BEGIN with. nt patrice Jun 2013 #485

Most Obama criticism is race hate karmalk Jun 2013 #348

No, it's not. Hissyspit Jun 2013 #356

K/R CakeGrrl Jun 2013 #350

k..... spanone Jun 2013 #351

I don't give a shit what you call it. Call it anything you want. I want liberal democrats in office. liberal_at_heart Jun 2013 #354

"It's hate. Period." Hissyspit Jun 2013 #357

It definitely is for some people. ProSense Jun 2013 #358

Then why "Period?" Hissyspit Jun 2013 #393

I made my point related to the title in the OP. n/t ProSense Jun 2013 #397

Don't tell me it's not hate: ProSense Jun 2013 #488

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If Obama had been president in the 90s, his accomplishments would be more impressive but... yurbud Jun 2013 #360

Instead, he only uses it vigorously for the wealthy Kolesar Jun 2013 #369

hmmm...which newspapers do you recommend? yurbud Jun 2013 #400

K&R, Prosense. BlueCaliDem Jun 2013 #370

my my, how that reeks of desperation stupidicus Jun 2013 #378

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Groundhog Day on DU. neverforget Jun 2013 #382

Summer reruns. They release a new episode every week ucrdem Jun 2013 #383

" are comfortably ensconced in nice, middle class professional jobs." I am??? Lady Freedom Returns Jun 2013 #385

Sad and desperate bullshit. 'Praise Obama or you're a racist hater!' Skip Intro Jun 2013 #386

No, ProSense Jun 2013 #388

Yes. Clearly and blatantly yes. Sad and desperate. Skip Intro Jun 2013 #389

LOL! n/t ProSense Jun 2013 #390

and continuespattern of beating up instead of listening to progressives who put him in office yurbud Jun 2013 #401

Attention hound. That is all. Always bumping her own posts. Posting the same links over and over. n- Logical Jun 2013 #428

Kick politicasista Jun 2013 #402

It's about base building; fuck the issues. nt patrice Jun 2013 #405

Makes some sense Life Long Dem Jun 2013 #407

Is that anything like "They hate us for our freedoms," Prosense? Th1onein Jun 2013 #408

Sometimes I wonder if I was living in a different country in the 1990s than some other people Blasphemer Jun 2013 #409

This message was self-deleted by its author myrna minx Jun 2013 #411

You've got one HELL of a lot of nerve trying to tell me my dissapointment and disapproval abq e streeter Jun 2013 #414

This quakerboy Jun 2013 #419

No because what we are seeing is some rather breathtaking revisionist history, where myrna minx Jun 2013 #424

I don't know who dreamed up this new strategy tactic it's so insulting, offensive and despicable. myrna minx Jun 2013 #423

it lets them both hail the "vital center" (though they're more Pelerin/Herman Kahn Dems: MisterP Jun 2013 #440

Those for whom it isn't hate, but is about social & economic justice instead, can recognize that in patrice Jun 2013 #418

TPP. GeorgeGist Jun 2013 #425

Attempts to catapult the propaganda met with resistance this week bobduca Jun 2013 #430

No, it's not. Lasher Jun 2013 #438

Huh? GoCubsGo Jun 2013 #441

Please ProSense Jun 2013 #442

Fine. I misspoke. GoCubsGo Jun 2013 #443

And you ProSense Jun 2013 #444

No. I am not wrong. GoCubsGo Jun 2013 #446

No, I'm not. ProSense Jun 2013 #448

"It's hate, period." About as blanket as you can get. cali Jun 2013 #451

"Are you kidding me? Defending Paula Deen on DU? You're outing yourself" ProSense Jun 2013 #453

lol. desperate much? cali Jun 2013 #473

Bullshit Teamster Jeff Jun 2013 #452

To me, what is racist Blue_In_AK Jun 2013 #454

I am able to separate the individual from the politician Puzzledtraveller Jun 2013 #455

Exactly my point. Blue_In_AK Jun 2013 #456

The OP ProSense Jun 2013 #457

So what did you say when Clinton signed NAFTA treestar Jun 2013 #459

Don't get me started on Clinton. Blue_In_AK Jun 2013 #463

An apt quote galileoreloaded Jun 2013 #458

What is the ACLU'S "hate" / "racist" / "envy" motivation? DirkGently Jun 2013 #486

Much of it seems to be just tunnel-vision. Jamaal510 Jun 2013 #487

K & R Pirate Smile Jun 2013 #489