Elizabeth Warren: Poutrage or Hate?

[sabrina 1]

49. There are no 'sides'. There is serious issue of possible violations of the rights of the American

people. I fail to see where there can be 'side's when it comes to such a serious issue. There is a small group here who rather than discuss the issues, attacks anyone who tries to do so. They are not a 'side', they have no position on the issues, or at least they have not presented it. They are here to try to derail any discussion of the issues. Yesterday they sank to a new low. And we expect they will find a way to go even lower when this latest attempt also fails.

My advice to everyone who genuinely cares about these issues is to simply ignore them, not to engage them at all and to continue to discuss the issues they are here to distract from, and let them rant and rave in their own small echo chamber.

The fact is, if true, the recent revelations show conduct by secret courts and secret committees and multi billion dollar 'Security' Corporations, that is against the very principles we claim to care so much about in this country.

The ACLU has already filed one lawsuit, since we cannot get Congress to end the secrecy and explain to the American people why these Bush policies are still in effect AFTER the people voted out the party that initiated them.