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sabrina 1

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1. Why is the refusal to be transparent always defended by claiming 'it's for your own good'??

Thu Jun 20, 2013, 01:54 PM

Jun 2013

How can anyone know what is or is not for their own good when they don't have a clue what their government is up to?

I am so grateful for Elizabeth Warren as there are few others right now looking out for the interests of the American people.

I have read some of the information on this Trade Agreement, and she is correct, even not knowing what she knows, it is clear that this would compromise the very sovereignty of this country.

I find it appalling that any American, right or left, would sell their own country down the river this way.

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Warren On Trans-Pacific Partnership: If People Knew What Was Going On, They Would Stop It - RawStory [View all] WillyT Jun 2013 OP

Why is the refusal to be transparent always defended by claiming 'it's for your own good'?? sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #1

That very attitude MuseRider Jun 2013 #6

Yes, it should and it does and the reaction of the apologists is shameful but it does explain sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #9

It's bad enough that we have the dimwitted republican sheeple plus the millions that rhett o rick Jun 2013 #31

Do you think an of the apologists will comment on this thread? nm rhett o rick Jun 2013 #33

No, I'd be surprised if they did. sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #40

I made that comment before and one of them told me that they were getting the "facts". nm rhett o rick Jun 2013 #43

O's approach re TPP so pro-corporate/secretive Divernan Jun 2013 #45

yes, that patronizing "daddy knows better" hopemountain Jun 2013 #26

X2 ctsnowman Jun 2013 #13

When One Hears That Argument - Run! cantbeserious Jun 2013 #60

At some point the total disregard for the wishes of their constituents is going to cost these Egalitarian Thug Jun 2013 #2

So true! +1000! n-t Logical Jun 2013 #36

yet another reason all the government secrecy serves the powerful, but not the people.... mike_c Jun 2013 #3

this is none of our business Enrique Jun 2013 #4

Senator Warren is a rare breath of fresh air. kr PufPuf23 Jun 2013 #5

We're so lucky to still have a few defenders in the Senate Hydra Jun 2013 #7

O's transparency is only for his 600 US corporate advisers/BFFs. Divernan Jun 2013 #8

"Doing good means going into the darkness and shining a light." ~~ Unknown ReRe Jun 2013 #28

The answers to your questions are available on the web - start googling. Divernan Jun 2013 #38

You are too kind.... ReRe Jun 2013 #42

About 90% of the public wants universal background checks. kristopher Jun 2013 #61

Democracy is dead I suppose. Obama was the ultimate corporate Trojan horse. limpyhobbler Jun 2013 #10

That is how I feel about Obama now. Not Sure Jun 2013 #19

yup! although he did state it to those listening, he was always a corporate candidate. Civilization2 Jun 2013 #64

My distaste for Obama is.accelerating. mick063 Jun 2013 #11

we need a nice whistle blower to publish this odious document for all to see nt msongs Jun 2013 #12

The sad part of your comment donnasgirl Jun 2013 #15

Wouldn't such a whistle blower be considered a terrorist? Enthusiast Jun 2013 #56

K & R ctsnowman Jun 2013 #14

Zombie Democracy ...you saw it here first! L0oniX Jun 2013 #16

Actually... ReRe Jun 2013 #29

I like the term "Zombie Democracy". Enthusiast Jun 2013 #57

"The shepherd always tries to persuade the sheep that their interests and his own are the same." Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2013 #17

Dear darling Senator Elizabeth Warren--tell us HOW to stop it! Demeter Jun 2013 #18

Massive civil disobedience is the only way. We cant get rid of the elite. We can only hope to rhett o rick Jun 2013 #35

Recommend jsr Jun 2013 #20

If Warren is against it, that's enough for me. But Elizabeth AND Bernie? AzDar Jun 2013 #21

And Alan Grayson. All the best are against this. JDPriestly Jun 2013 #22

+1000 n-t Logical Jun 2013 #49

Need I say more? JDPriestly Jun 2013 #23

Let me understand this: Trade agreements involving the US are "secret"... KansDem Jun 2013 #24

Essentially...yes Harmony Blue Jun 2013 #34

4 good senators out of 100 ananda Jun 2013 #25

I think it's more than money.... ReRe Jun 2013 #53

Treaties need 2/3 Senate approval. Buns_of_Fire Jun 2013 #27

Trade agreements, since 1974, need 51 percent from House and Senate Divernan Jun 2013 #44

I stand corrected. Thank you. Buns_of_Fire Jun 2013 #46

Both the process & content of this TPP are SO complex. Divernan Jun 2013 #55

K&R ReRe Jun 2013 #30

I think they would assasinate her if she did! Awknid Jun 2013 #48

We are so screwn ... GeorgeGist Jun 2013 #32

Warren thrown under the bus in 3...2...1 Logical Jun 2013 #37

How can people stop it? Not only are Obama and the vast majority of Congress forestpath Jun 2013 #39

IMO, Senator Warren has done a very good job in her first year in office. kentuck Jun 2013 #41

Key words here "Congress has to pass legislation" LOL! octoberlib Jun 2013 #47

You'd think that woman wasn't bidness friendly. Jakes Progress Jun 2013 #50

The Workers pay race to the Bottom BillyRibs Jun 2013 #51

Obama stated it a little differently. pa28 Jun 2013 #66

I assume "trade representatives" means corporate bagmen. bluedigger Jun 2013 #52

Forward! Into the abyss! blkmusclmachine Jun 2013 #54

We love the abyss! Enthusiast Jun 2013 #58

Great slogan. Some politicians should adopt it n/t Catherina Jun 2013 #63

That implies she knows what is going on, so why doesn't she reveal it? treestar Jun 2013 #59

With this vote, we know who the true Senate warriors for the common citizen are. nt NorthCarolina Jun 2013 #62

She's paraphrasing an argument, not stating her position mathematic Jun 2013 #65

just another racist firebagger noiretextatique Jun 2013 #67