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HooptieWagon

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54. Huh? I haven't ruled out anything.

Thu Jun 20, 2013, 04:00 PM

Jun 2013

Its possible there was a computer failure leading to unintended acceleration, but I have never heard of it being a problem with Mercedes. And its possible the computer chip could be re-programmed or switched, causing unintended acceleration...but that requires access to the computer, which is inside the car under the dash or behind kick-panels. And monkeying with the computer would leave the evidence behind in the form of substituted software. Although the computer was likely destroyed in the fire in this case, that wasn't a guarantee so the risk of discovery was high.
Like I said, although there is the possibility of sabotaging the car, the actual probability is low, since the risk of discovery before or after an accident would be too high to risk.

If there was a plot to kill him, possible since he received death threats, then there were ways of doing so with less risk of discovery.

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Speed kills zappaman Jun 2013 #1

His family and friends know the answers here flamingdem Jun 2013 #2

Also zappaman Jun 2013 #4

I drove Highland at night for 4 years flamingdem Jun 2013 #6

I've driven it at all hours too. zappaman Jun 2013 #19

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His friends and family and colleagues have stated that he was very nervous and was concerned sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #42

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You left out speeding... zappaman Jun 2013 #45

That's just physics, man. nt geek tragedy Jun 2013 #46

So "physics" can tell the difference between a driver and an accelerator malfunction? n/t mhatrw Jun 2013 #91

Since I said nothing at all about how the accident may or may not have happened you might want to sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #58

If one is not alleging a conspiracy, one is not advancing a conspiracy theory. geek tragedy Jun 2013 #59

I thought you were one of the good guys Aerows Jun 2013 #107

Nice try. zappaman Jun 2013 #60

That's fine and I agree with you Aerows Jun 2013 #108

not a smear, but a fact zappaman Jun 2013 #43

Obama and Bush have admitted to smoking also. So what? Is there anyone in the country who sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #75

Unfortunately, many legal medications can cause nervousness and agitation. pnwmom Jun 2013 #84

So now he was crazy and on medication? Could you provide something to back that up? sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #89

People don't take ritalin because they're crazy. pnwmom Jun 2013 #90

Of course we don't know. What we do know now is that he was aware that he was being sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #97

Slight correction Bodhi BloodWave Jun 2013 #110

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Thank you for the info. hedgehog Jun 2013 #29

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you seem to have warrprayer Jun 2013 #63

Nope. zappaman Jun 2013 #64

I was looking at the thread earlier with all the tree jokes warrprayer Jun 2013 #65

It's a bummer. zappaman Jun 2013 #68

yeah you have a point warrprayer Jun 2013 #70

Breitbart is still dead. nt geek tragedy Jun 2013 #74

yeah warrprayer Jun 2013 #102

Point is sometimes the evil ones die young too, e.g. dead Andy Breitbart nt geek tragedy Jun 2013 #103

o.k. got it n/t warrprayer Jun 2013 #104

It's suspicious BECAUSE he was going so fast! mhatrw Jun 2013 #92

one of the few? hfojvt Jun 2013 #99

before you ask... warrprayer Jun 2013 #67

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I wonder if through Kelley nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #3

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Yeah, this was a wacky gossipy story but hard to believe it had much gravitas flamingdem Jun 2013 #10

Cause we all know nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #15

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Thats possible. HooptieWagon Jun 2013 #47

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You know what is hilarious of this post of yours? nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #31

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aye yi yi... zappaman Jun 2013 #33

Authoritarian states want a lot of people like you to have their back. delrem Jun 2013 #77

"People like me" please elaborate nt geek tragedy Jun 2013 #78

Who benefits when people pretend that only accidents happen? mhatrw Jun 2013 #94

The severity of the crash indicates he was speeding. HooptieWagon Jun 2013 #5

Gak. Texting at that speed is pure insanity considering the density flamingdem Jun 2013 #7

I've seen some pretty idiotic stunts inre texting... HooptieWagon Jun 2013 #9

Were his brakes tampered with?..n/t monmouth3 Jun 2013 #11

Not likely. HooptieWagon Jun 2013 #48

You don't know much about how autos are programed and operated today i would presume nolabels Jun 2013 #82

Then you presume wrong. HooptieWagon Jun 2013 #83

Rigging the accelerator signal to a remote would not be that difficult nolabels Jun 2013 #95

And the police would have discovered evidence of remote control linkage to throttle body. HooptieWagon Jun 2013 #96

That is not my trade and i was answering the other poster who said it couldn't be done nolabels Jun 2013 #98

You responded to my post. HooptieWagon Jun 2013 #100

Who said it would be the government? nolabels Jun 2013 #109

Still haven't addressed fact that throttle sabotage easily disabled... HooptieWagon Jun 2013 #111

Lovely that you have been able to rule out SUA Berlum Jun 2013 #51

Huh? I haven't ruled out anything. HooptieWagon Jun 2013 #54

Going all out tinfoil here - but what about laundry_queen Jun 2013 #86

OnStar is a GM system. HooptieWagon Jun 2013 #88

He did get death threats Ichingcarpenter Jun 2013 #12

Great find. Straight from his own lips. I'm posting it here Catherina Jun 2013 #17

Knee Jerk Reflex to "wild conspiracy theories" whenever anything bad may be linked to gov usGovOwesUs3Trillion Jun 2013 #18

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Of course! zappaman Jun 2013 #24

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Don't forget we are authoritarians as well. zappaman Jun 2013 #28

They use "authoritarian" the way Hannity uses "liberal." geek tragedy Jun 2013 #30

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There was evidence of that. nt geek tragedy Jun 2013 #81

"Lacking evidence, let's not rule out the possibility of a gigantic government conspiracy here!" struggle4progress Jun 2013 #27

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Because there's no evidence to back up the conspiracy loons on this nt geek tragedy Jun 2013 #56

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Thank You For That !!! WillyT Jun 2013 #87

nobody mention Ernie Kovak's crash . olddots Jun 2013 #105

hmmmmmm interesting. nt Raine Jun 2013 #106