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hunter

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53. "Debating" them is worthless.

Mon Feb 13, 2012, 12:18 PM

Feb 2012

I always go for raw intimidation.

Like, what was their supposed god creator huffing when he created humans?

God appears to be a much better engineer if we simply evolved, if He simply mixed up the ingredients of life and stepped back with the omniscient knowledge and expectation that something intelligent would crawl out of the slime.

A work that needs constant fiddling with throughout time, yet still produces such obvious kludges as humans, THAT is the work of an incompetent hack.

Is their god an incompetent hack?

But the best thing is to never give them a stage, to let them know beforehand their arguments will be crushed not by mild-mannered scientists who tend not to be trained in this manner of manipulative debate, but by heavily armed theological streetfighters who believe Evolution is God's Most Marvelous Creation.

The best possible outcome of these phony "debates" is when the Creationist's don't show up.

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My Son Needs Some Help. Anti-Evolution Speaker Coming to His School [View all] renie408 Feb 2012 OP

I don't know if it's the same guy, but... white_wolf Feb 2012 #1

This Visual Speaks For Itself 1ProudAtheist Feb 2012 #32

Seems like an excellent chance for your son to find the information on his own... JSnuffy Feb 2012 #2

I offered to ask people here since I know there are a lot of smart people renie408 Feb 2012 #20

Better Parenting Nazis lunatica Feb 2012 #36

Wow... JSnuffy Feb 2012 #40

Ok renie408 Feb 2012 #46

"Your Mileage May Vary". (It's super-hip internet lingo.) 11 Bravo Feb 2012 #68

Oh. Well, there you go. I am SO not super hip. renie408 Feb 2012 #71

Don't You Like When People Call Themselves "Super Hip"? we can do it Feb 2012 #78

I think it is funny you talk about nazis for better spelling... YellowRubberDuckie Feb 2012 #87

What you think... lunatica Feb 2012 #88

Great advice. Sharing information is for losers. Let's all get off the internet. Bucky Feb 2012 #76

There's really no point rebutting, but... cthulu2016 Feb 2012 #3

NCSE Agony Feb 2012 #4

The dipshit will likely sharp_stick Feb 2012 #5

Have him ask the guy how it is that bacteria becomes resistant to antibiotics n/t dflprincess Feb 2012 #6

I Replied 1ProudAtheist Feb 2012 #7

Tell him to ask Mr Nutting why humans have flying buttresses above their eye teeth. yellowcanine Feb 2012 #8

What kind of crazy school would host that nut job? Walk away Feb 2012 #9

Clemson University. renie408 Feb 2012 #28

have him read this lapfog_1 Feb 2012 #10

here ya go RainDog Feb 2012 #11

I second the Nova documentary. Loki Feb 2012 #14

Nothing wrong with being exposed to stupid ideas. Bonobo Feb 2012 #12

nutting? perfect name for a real nutter niyad Feb 2012 #13

From Scientific American - lots of resources csziggy Feb 2012 #15

How old is your son? Luminous Animal Feb 2012 #16

Bill Hicks: "Ever notice how the people who believe in creationism look really unevolved?" Initech Feb 2012 #17

Ha ha, that's funny, cause all stupid people are ugly too! Bucky Feb 2012 #77

Sheesh, it was supposed to be a joke post. Initech Feb 2012 #82

I would ask Nutting how to expain how all the breeds of dog came about from the first wolves libinnyandia Feb 2012 #18

Watched a program about that laundry_queen Feb 2012 #33

the case for evolution??? handmade34 Feb 2012 #19

YOUTUBE: RICHARD DAWKINS FarLeftFist Feb 2012 #21

Your son should prepare for Dave to get condescending derby378 Feb 2012 #22

it is going to be tough because disproving evolution is so easy Agony Feb 2012 #23

... handmade34 Feb 2012 #26

"Have you ever seen a snail trying to run away from the wrath of a loving God?" me b zola Feb 2012 #41

Here are some questions .... JoePhilly Feb 2012 #24

Oooohhh...some of these are good! Thanks! renie408 Feb 2012 #25

np ... I've been daring the local schools to try and teach this nonsense here in NC. JoePhilly Feb 2012 #29

Calling it the "Theory of Creationism" only reinforces the notion that . . . markpkessinger Feb 2012 #80

I don't understand why he has to have ammunition to counteract the speaker. Drahthaardogs Feb 2012 #27

His son will learn more, by 1st listening, and then asking meaningful questions. JoePhilly Feb 2012 #30

I am a "real" scientist Drahthaardogs Feb 2012 #35

I did not suggest that you were or were not a real scientist. JoePhilly Feb 2012 #37

Good for you. renie408 Feb 2012 #39

Actually Drahthaardogs Feb 2012 #49

LOL...I am saddened that someone who calls themselves a scientist and advocates renie408 Feb 2012 #61

You mention "Palmetto Scholar" long after my post #27. Drahthaardogs Feb 2012 #79

Do you know what an ad hominem attack is? renie408 Feb 2012 #83

Nah, Drahthaardogs Feb 2012 #84

Many people believe the world is 6000 years old. That doesn't mean you have to cater to them. renie408 Feb 2012 #31

You should not act like this is a "fringe" belief Drahthaardogs Feb 2012 #34

Oh, you are a TOXICOLOGIST...Well, then... renie408 Feb 2012 #43

Who's ego is out of control? Drahthaardogs Feb 2012 #48

Well, you get my vote for ego driven behavior... renie408 Feb 2012 #60

Thank you. GoCubsGo Feb 2012 #50

You know, I don't disagree with a word you are saying. renie408 Feb 2012 #63

I'm not saying he should ignore it. GoCubsGo Feb 2012 #72

Tell him to tell the speaker he is teaching a religious belief, not science. mmonk Feb 2012 #38

Can you find a fossil for him to take to school? Vinca Feb 2012 #42

"The Magic of Reality" PassingFair Feb 2012 #44

not just a theory . com mr blur Feb 2012 #45

Thanks! See? That's why I asked. I never knew about that site. n/t renie408 Feb 2012 #47

they are teaching science fiction in schools now? spanone Feb 2012 #51

I'm really the minority here on this.... Jello Biafra Feb 2012 #52

"Debating" them is worthless. hunter Feb 2012 #53

OMG!! That is AWESOME!! renie408 Feb 2012 #66

My kid got stuck and had to be delivered c-section... hunter Feb 2012 #69

The school should let kids opt out that day-a notice should be sent to the parents... jenmito Feb 2012 #54

This is at a university. GoCubsGo Feb 2012 #73

Go to Talk Origins SteveG Feb 2012 #55

Squidbillies: "Them fossils was a jesusly ruse to keep nonbelievers off the scent." AtomicKitten Feb 2012 #56

Your son's a university student. He can do his own research. It'll be good for him. LeftyMom Feb 2012 #57

*sigh* renie408 Feb 2012 #65

You asked a very open-ended question. LeftyMom Feb 2012 #67

Exactly. I think he feels pretty strongly that he is on top of it. renie408 Feb 2012 #70

I would attack young earth creationism XemaSab Feb 2012 #58

Your son attends Clemson and you're still doing his homework??? lynne Feb 2012 #59

Yes. I do all his homework for him. He is actually incapable of thinking for himself. renie408 Feb 2012 #62

You could ask the person why.. sakabatou Feb 2012 #64

Not to worry Darwinator Feb 2012 #74

He is and I will, thanks! renie408 Feb 2012 #75

I grew up about 20 miles from Clemson! onager Feb 2012 #81

Why can't we all just get along? april come she will Feb 2012 #85

Google "freedom FROM religion Foundation" YellowRubberDuckie Feb 2012 #86