It's hate. Period.

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399. Thank you. That states my functional foundation perfectly. Prioritizing political damage to Obama

will result in much more damage on the issues and set the Left further back than it is now. Maybe the damage will cause them to accrue a bigger hard-core, so they don't care if they succeed any time soon. It's sad, because it means that it's a 30-somethings movement and we old-tyme Lefties will be used up before the movement develops more fully or does much for our lives.

Personally, I don't think that's necessary. If the movement weren't so dominated by Libertarians, I'm guessing it could have some degree of success AS THE LEFT relatively soon. Libertarians introduce entropy on the issues, so the whole thing could very possibly go through some cycles of losses before the hard-core Left separates and gets big enough to actually accomplish something maybe in about 10-15 years, when it could be sooner if they weren't in bed with Libertarians.