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149. When there's no evidence, perfectly okay to say "no evidence." nt

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Wikileaks: Journalist Michael Hastings Was Dogged by FBI [View all] Octafish Jun 2013 OP

Wikileaks is exploiting his death to troll for attention. geek tragedy Jun 2013 #1

I agree- though whether they breached legal ethics is doubtful cali Jun 2013 #5

If someone meets with an attorney, and is allowed to take away the impression geek tragedy Jun 2013 #8

Nonsense! Vinnie From Indy Jun 2013 #47

Your substance-free response has caused me to change my mind. You are very persuasive, nt geek tragedy Jun 2013 #49

You appear to be seldom correct, but never in doubt to me Vinnie From Indy Jun 2013 #54

I really doubt it. Not to mention that he told this to quite a few people evidently cali Jun 2013 #88

As I said, fact-intensive. geek tragedy Jun 2013 #90

If any third person knew of the contact, there is no privilege. DirkGently Jun 2013 #97

What is the conspiracy? RobertEarl Jun 2013 #6

The 'theory' geek tragedy Jun 2013 #11

There has to be more than that RobertEarl Jun 2013 #12

My conclusion is that there are no facts showing that Hastings was killed geek tragedy Jun 2013 #15

So, you don't know for sure RobertEarl Jun 2013 #19

I know there are zero facts that have been revealed that contradict geek tragedy Jun 2013 #21

You know zero facts? RobertEarl Jun 2013 #24

There are facts, those facts point towards "tragic accident' geek tragedy Jun 2013 #26

That is all you have? RobertEarl Jun 2013 #28

I'm saying look at the facts. geek tragedy Jun 2013 #29

Well RobertEarl Jun 2013 #39

"you have nothing more than what the media has told all of us" geek tragedy Jun 2013 #42

Cheers for your line of inquiry!!! Vinnie From Indy Jun 2013 #53

Not to mention the car crossed a median. I wondered if he possibly dropped something on his okaawhatever Jun 2013 #141

BeFree to make up your own facts. zappaman Jun 2013 #30

What's shameful is diverting attention away from what Hastings said. Octafish Jun 2013 #18

How is pushing half-baked conspiracy theories and citing geek tragedy Jun 2013 #23

Didn't know I wrote any of that. Octafish Jun 2013 #27

You cited the abuses of J Edgar Hoover as reflecting what the FBI geek tragedy Jun 2013 #31

So, that's not what I wrote. Octafish Jun 2013 #43

You cited an abusive episode from 1968 and said "That's the FBI." geek tragedy Jun 2013 #44

No. You said I wrote that I was advancing 'half-baked conspiracy theories.' Octafish Jun 2013 #50

Cheers to you Ocatfish! Vinnie From Indy Jun 2013 #58

Come now, the FBI's reputation is not helpful to your cause. DirkGently Jun 2013 #133

Your rationalizations are amazing. nm rhett o rick Jun 2013 #56

Yes, it's my bias for facts and evidence over vapid speculation. geek tragedy Jun 2013 #59

Do you think that politics is conspiracy free? nm rhett o rick Jun 2013 #63

Of course not. But there needs to be factual substantiation to allegations geek tragedy Jun 2013 #65

I havent noticed any posts claiming the government was responsible. There may rhett o rick Jun 2013 #73

I have no idea whether drugs or alcohol were involved. geek tragedy Jun 2013 #75

I am willing to wait and see before making a judgment. rhett o rick Jun 2013 #102

gee you keep repeating warrprayer Jun 2013 #77

Why do you think Wikileaks is claiming the FBI stuff is related to his death? nt geek tragedy Jun 2013 #79

I was unaware warrprayer Jun 2013 #106

First tweet was "Michael Hastings death has a very serious non-public complication." geek tragedy Jun 2013 #109

o.k. valid point warrprayer Jun 2013 #116

Frankly from what I am observing some on du are too willing to jump on that band wagon. I saw them still_one Jun 2013 #114

slight difference--the ones jumping on the IRS bandwagon were the conservadem, Ron and Rand Paul geek tragedy Jun 2013 #117

Yeah you make a good point with that distinction still_one Jun 2013 #122

How do you know that Ms Robinson didn't tell Wikileaks? Luminous Animal Jun 2013 #137

The Tea Party is looking saner every day. railsback Jun 2013 #2

For sure. Like Deborah Jeane Palfrey. Octafish Jun 2013 #45

Yes, government did that, too. railsback Jun 2013 #52

I don't know who did it. Octafish Jun 2013 #89

I understand your point, but not really. Because someone makes an inane claim without facts still_one Jun 2013 #119

touch� railsback Jun 2013 #134

You just painted a picture for me of a fencing match still_one Jun 2013 #139

Yep. I am afraid so. Some here on DU have jumped the shark and are hurdling every bluestate10 Jun 2013 #136

They should release what they have. napoleon_in_rags Jun 2013 #3

USN&WR: FBI issues standard 'no comment,' swats at emerging conspiracy theories Octafish Jun 2013 #4

They could clear the air a little more. napoleon_in_rags Jun 2013 #10

4) Since his car was travelling in excess of 60 mph on a street (Highland Ave) that is unsafe above HardTimes99 Jun 2013 #126

Michael Hastings Crash: Car Was Speeding, Engine Flew 100 Feet, Cops Say zappaman Jun 2013 #7

How about sudden acceleration? AZ Progressive Jun 2013 #9

Reminds me of Syriana napoleon_in_rags Jun 2013 #13

Reminder that Syriana was a movie. nt geek tragedy Jun 2013 #17

Yea, a movie based on pure fantasy right? SalviaBlue Jun 2013 #46

How about aliens chasing him in a spacecraft...cloaked of course. zappaman Jun 2013 #20

No evidence of a government hit is evidence of a government hit. Liberal Veteran Jun 2013 #95

So far, your theory makes the most sense. zappaman Jun 2013 #96

OMG! Even worse! Rabid Zombie Unicorns! Liberal Veteran Jun 2013 #98

Since it was a Mercedes, look for the Bundesnachrichtendienst FarCenter Jun 2013 #33

That might explain his racing through a red light. He would glinda Jun 2013 #38

Were his brake lights on? RobertEarl Jun 2013 #66

Have you been to the scene of the crime yet? snooper2 Jun 2013 #80

Why do you add personal insults to the thread? Octafish Jun 2013 #86

What insult? snooper2 Jun 2013 #87

I went by this morning on my daily commute zappaman Jun 2013 #93

I was looking for new car when Toyota and Honda were dealing with that problem. KoKo Jun 2013 #91

Ugh. Not to be a pain, but ... DirkGently Jun 2013 #111

It is rumoured that the ISI (UK) developed a technique to KurtNYC Jun 2013 #150

A similar accident happened to Ed Meese's son, Scott. Octafish Jun 2013 #32

A similar accident happened to Brandon Joseph Hahn. zappaman Jun 2013 #34

Hauling "Irish Ass?" What kind of an investigator would say something like that? KoKo Jun 2013 #72

HOW DARE YOU SMEAR HASTINGS!?! OilemFirchen Jun 2013 #92

glad to see warrprayer Jun 2013 #113

Happy to have tickled your funny bone. OilemFirchen Jun 2013 #125

no n/t warrprayer Jun 2013 #155

hmmmm.... warrprayer Jun 2013 #108

If you are going to hit a tree head on while going 100 mph zappaman Jun 2013 #110

Engine landed how far away? warrprayer Jun 2013 #112

Car stopped... zappaman Jun 2013 #115

o.k. valid point warrprayer Jun 2013 #118

I think they will figure it out and we will know. zappaman Jun 2013 #123

what I think is warrprayer Jun 2013 #128

Conspiracies are ridiculous NoOneMan Jun 2013 #14

For sure. Like John Kokal. Octafish Jun 2013 #35

you forgot to mention Vince Foster., nt geek tragedy Jun 2013 #36

For sure. Like Cliff Baxter. Octafish Jun 2013 #40

Ron Brown too. I talked to a guy who told me Hillary had him assassinated. geek tragedy Jun 2013 #41

I don't know why you want to ridicule a serious issue, but it's good to see where you stand. Octafish Jun 2013 #51

Fact-free conspiracy theories are not a serious issue. geek tragedy Jun 2013 #57

Right you are. You're one of those who insulted RFK, Jr. Octafish Jun 2013 #81

he's an anti-vaxxer loon, so yes. He's not his father. geek tragedy Jun 2013 #84

They rationalize that they can declare something as ridiculous therefore deserves ridicule. But rhett o rick Jun 2013 #60

You don't think it's ridiculous to claim, as Wikileaks has, that the FBI geek tragedy Jun 2013 #83

I think you are too quick to call something ridiculous. In any event, there is no excuse, no rhett o rick Jun 2013 #99

One is not required to take unserious arguments seriously. nt geek tragedy Jun 2013 #100

I totally agree. I only have a problem when those that dont take something seriously think rhett o rick Jun 2013 #120

LA Times: Michael Hastings researching Jill Kelley case before death Octafish Jun 2013 #85

This message was self-deleted by its author rhett o rick Jun 2013 #62

While you may have missed the sarcasm, I think PRISM probably understood me. NoOneMan Jun 2013 #68

How embarrassing. I did miss the sarcasm. I am often sarcasm impaired. nm rhett o rick Jun 2013 #74

Since his deceased fiance worked for CIA, and his wife worked for Condi Rice, the Bush White House, FarCenter Jun 2013 #16

He could have had inside info RobertEarl Jun 2013 #22

People jump from Foggy Bottom all the time. Rex Jun 2013 #25

For sure. Like Ted Westhusing. Octafish Jun 2013 #37

LOL at commondreams. You Better Believe It! FSogol Jun 2013 #48

There's nothing funny about a journalist who covered corruptions of the national security state... Octafish Jun 2013 #61

Yeah, that's a tragedy, but it is disgusting how all the conspiracy nuts are trying to use his FSogol Jun 2013 #94

Really? Care to show where I do any of that? Octafish Jun 2013 #101

^Snicker^ FSogol Jun 2013 #103

You're trashing through labeling. Octafish Jun 2013 #105

Oooooooo, maybe I'm part of a government conspiracy! FSogol Jun 2013 #107

Mr. Hastings was one of the good guys and I am disappointed at the lack of respect shown here. nm rhett o rick Jun 2013 #121

The lack of respect by people using his death for their political purposes? FSogol Jun 2013 #138

Most of those that are asking for more information and further investigations have given their rhett o rick Jun 2013 #140

Bollocks: "Trying to assassinate his character" FSogol Jun 2013 #146

Ernest Hemingway suffered a similar fate... KansDem Jun 2013 #55

I hope all DU'ers note that there are some here that Vinnie From Indy Jun 2013 #64

well... zappaman Jun 2013 #67

Hey Zappaman - fellow Angeleno here. Is it even possible to drive 100 mph down Highland? That HardTimes99 Jun 2013 #131

Absolutely but... zappaman Jun 2013 #132

Thanks. I remember Highland being really dark with a lot of twists and turns and HardTimes99 Jun 2013 #142

We're part of the conspiracy. geek tragedy Jun 2013 #69

You certainly are very sure of what has happened in this case Vinnie From Indy Jun 2013 #76

There's no evidence it was anything but an accident. geek tragedy Jun 2013 #78

Logical fallacy. Just because it all conspiracies theories are not valid doesnt mean that none are. rhett o rick Jun 2013 #129

When there's no evidence, perfectly okay to say "no evidence." nt geek tragedy Jun 2013 #149

Yep. Reminds me of Colonel Flagg treestar Jun 2013 #144

It is almost a conspiracy, isn't it? RobertEarl Jun 2013 #70

Yeah. I cannot believe all of the posts from the Truth-Seekers that have disappeared. OilemFirchen Jun 2013 #104

And, here is my proof about mocking people that ask questions Vinnie From Indy Jun 2013 #130

Yep, there's no way to disprove the conspiracy treestar Jun 2013 #145

Their decision is solely based on whether or not the incident could reflect badly on Pres Obama. rhett o rick Jun 2013 #124

Heartbreaking. Octafish Jun 2013 #71

You're welcome, Octafish! KansDem Jun 2013 #82

K & R !!! WillyT Jun 2013 #127

Why Gen. Petraeus� Assassination Inc. Threatens Us All Octafish Jun 2013 #153

You post this without a puke smilie to close the story out? Amazing. nt bluestate10 Jun 2013 #135

Nothing funny. Octafish Jun 2013 #152

Wikileaks says so, it must be true treestar Jun 2013 #143

You dont like wikileaks do you? Nor Anonymous. nm rhett o rick Jun 2013 #151

I was ribbing people who think they are always in the right treestar Jun 2013 #154

omfg i didn't know about this! how did i miss it? his wife , also a reporter, was killed in Iraq!. boilerbabe Jun 2013 #147

no, it was his gf. cali Jun 2013 #148