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In reply to the discussion: The NSA Scandal is a Bipartisan Cluster Fuck. [View all]rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)9. This is exactly what I want to know. If you notice the spy machine we have incl Clapper, etc. is
essentially the same machine Bush had. I think when Obama got into office he was told that there was this massive spy machine in place keeping us safe and he best not mess with it.
Who makes up the ruling cabal? When Boosh was figurehead I thought that Cheney was one of the men behind the curtain. But his actions in late 2007 made me change my mind. Someone told him to back off. Seems to me that most of the spy guys and military leaders, and hell even economic leaders transcend presidents. How much of a figurehead is our president?
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Came out the same time as "Pan's Labyrinth." Both excellent anti-fascist / totalitarian statements
villager
Jun 2013
#27
Damn, I did not! Just looked him up on IMDB. I think the director wanted to work with him again, too
villager
Jun 2013
#40
Actually, Stasi 3.0 (the 60s in America being Stasi 2.0). But I've got that
HardTimes99
Jun 2013
#21
Well, frankly I no longer care what ignorant people, people with no knowledge of what is very recent
sabrina 1
Jun 2013
#56
Agreed, but please remember to pay all attention to the man behind the curtain.
Fire Walk With Me
Jun 2013
#5
This is exactly what I want to know. If you notice the spy machine we have incl Clapper, etc. is
rhett o rick
Jun 2013
#9
IMO, when Obama became president, he was told that there was a super-duper spy machine in place that
rhett o rick
Jun 2013
#29
Why then would Pres Obama appoint the same people to run the economy and the intelligence agencies?
rhett o rick
Jun 2013
#32
No, both President Obama and Bush's former advisers have said that Obama made changes when he became
okaawhatever
Jun 2013
#36
What? The NSA is part of the executive branch. Congress allegedly has oversight,
Warren Stupidity
Jun 2013
#51
Congressional law governs the general program. If Wyden wants Clapper to speak
okaawhatever
Jun 2013
#52
Only legal from the point of view some appointed republican judge(s) who.........
nolabels
Jun 2013
#48
I was thinking today, which country is going to be the one to tell the U.S., "Tear down this wall."
pacalo
Jun 2013
#49
It is laughter i feel ( because in thinking of the xenophobes it would be just too sad to cry for)
nolabels
Jun 2013
#57
The more the world hears about those nut-jobs, the less need for a fence to keep them out.
pacalo
Jun 2013
#59
Did you mean to say, "...democrat-IC republic?" Misusing that word is often a rightie smear
LaydeeBug
Jun 2013
#11
This is nothing more than some who have a cause and nothing more to entertain themselves
Thinkingabout
Jun 2013
#18
I saw (a version of) this when you posted it in, I think, Kentuck's thread. I was
HardTimes99
Jun 2013
#20