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Solly Mack

(97,348 posts)
21. K&R
Fri Jun 21, 2013, 12:02 PM
Jun 2013
Let’s be clear, it’s not that the NSA misdeeds, carried out by the last two administrations, are no big deal. They’re completely indefensible, no matter the efforts of the apologists for empire — from the corporate media to President Obama to Dick Cheney — to legitimize them. A free people should not stand for it.

Problem is, we are not a free people and never have been, and therein lies the rub.

The idea that with this NSA program there has been some unique blow struck against democracy, and that now our liberties are in jeopardy is the kind of thing one can only believe if one has had the luxury of thinking they were living in such a place, and were in possession of such shiny baubles to begin with. And this is, to be sure, a luxury enjoyed by painfully few folks of color, Muslims in a post-9/11 America, or poor people of any color. For the first, they have long known that their freedom was directly constrained by racial discrimination, in housing, the justice system and the job market; for the second, profiling and suspicion have circumscribed the boundaries of their liberties unceasingly for the past twelve years; and for the latter, freedom and democracy have been mostly an illusion, limited by economic privation in a class system that affords less opportunity for mobility than fifty years ago, and less than most other nations with which we like to compare ourselves.

In short, when people proclaim a desire to “take back our democracy” from the national security apparatus, or for that matter the plutocrats who have ostensibly hijacked it, they begin from a premise that is entirely untenable; namely, that there was ever a democracy to take back, and that the hijacking of said utopia has been a recent phenomenon. But there wasn’t and it hasn’t been.


Reaction to the most recent confirmation of this truth ranks right along with the way so many were stunned by the September 11 attacks. The shock in that instance also came from a place of naiveté, wrought by the luxury of believing that the rest of the world viewed us as we did: as a paragon of virtue, which had brought only light and happiness to the world, rather than military occupations, hellfire missiles, brutal and crippling economic sanctions, and support for dictators so long as they were serving our presumed interests. But some people — and again, they were mostly black and brown — were not stunned at all.
Having long had no choice but to see the nation’s warts for what they were, and having never possessed the benefit of viewing America as most whites had, peoples of color, while horrified by that day’s events, were hardly likely to be knocked off stride by them. They had always known what it was like to be hated. And hunted. And solely because of who they were.





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always great to hear from Tim Wise JI7 Jun 2013 #1
ny's stop and frisk comes to mind. many have no problem with it Liberal_in_LA Jun 2013 #2
yes. The whole point is that. Whisp Jun 2013 #22
+1 gollygee Jun 2013 #25
+1, few were screaming this loud and long when it was known Muslims were under... uponit7771 Jun 2013 #3
the outrage is that it isn't "just them" JI7 Jun 2013 #5
DU was anti surveillance before anti surveillance was cool Fumesucker Jun 2013 #6
Yes, in fact many were supporting it. But we WERE screaming about it. Glenn Greenwald was sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #13
Muslim survelence ?! I doubt it went past 2 hours worth of DU posting uponit7771 Jun 2013 #28
The world doesn't consist of what happens on DU. Or maybe it does, for some. sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #29
Yes there was outrage, for about an hour or 2....no doubt people didn't like it btu didn't spend uponit7771 Jun 2013 #30
DURec leftstreet Jun 2013 #4
My God... sibelian Jun 2013 #7
Those who are especially chapped are white males? Skip Intro Jun 2013 #8
It is a last resort deflection Puzzledtraveller Jun 2013 #14
a quote that rings true DonCoquixote Jun 2013 #9
"after all, if what I’m saying doesn’t apply to you, why so defensive, buttercup?" redqueen Jun 2013 #11
Excellent post. And then there are the others who were speaking out about it when Bush sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #15
I wouldn't go so far as to say the Clintons are racist. Whisp Jun 2013 #24
yep grantcart Jun 2013 #10
K&R. redqueen Jun 2013 #12
Lots of posturing going on. If you have always spoken out against these abuses and still are, sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #16
Yes, totally, that says it, thank you. nt bemildred Jun 2013 #17
This just in. People of Color don't care about the NSA and what it does MNBrewer Jun 2013 #18
Only as much as 'they're calling me racist!' is a take home message redqueen Jun 2013 #19
I don't treat Obama any differently over his Surveillance State than I did Bush MNBrewer Jun 2013 #23
Comparing the way he is treated by dems to the way Bush is treated by dems is not a fair comparison. redqueen Jun 2013 #26
I don't think he IS being treated differently by Dems MNBrewer Jun 2013 #27
Wise. Whisp Jun 2013 #20
K&R Solly Mack Jun 2013 #21
OK, so I am jaded, and perhaps a bit paranoid FrodosPet Jun 2013 #31
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