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Soundman

(297 posts)
42. Wow, long video. I tend to agree with
Fri Jun 21, 2013, 06:01 PM
Jun 2013

Grok. All I have known about this case until i watched the video has been message board Talk. I learned quite a bit from the video, even if it was done to portray Trevon as innocent.

I am now officially intrigued. Here are my thoughts, observation and questions, in no particular order.

What is "it" that "they" always get away with? Toilet paper in the pool? or robbery? Cutting through the complex regularly?

I believe if Zimmerman wanted a conflict he had an early opportunity for it. He could have told the dispatcher that Trevon was coming at him, and said oh no, no, no. Hung up his phone and proceeded to mow Trevon down (in self defense).

Why didn't Trevon acknowledge Zimmerman after he drove by him and was looking at him funny? I live in backwoods USA, eye contact and a wave is first contact around here.

I am skeptical of the girlfriends story it just doesn't add up. Far too many episodes of the first 48 have shown me how convincingly people lie Using an element of the truth. What I heard was a story where Trevon confronted Zimmerman. Saying he wasn't running any more and seemed to approach Zimmermanm calling him an old man. Not exactly the words of a nice little skittle eating teen ager out for stroll in the rain in my opinion. Here in backwater USA those are pretty much fighting words.

Her story also falls kinda flat about the blank spot after Trevon out ran Zimmerman. What did Trevon do after out running him? I thought she said he was almost at his dads, seriously, how long would that take? 30 seconds maybe? My best guess? Martin doubled back and confronted Zimmerman, probably trying to look bad ass to his girlfriend. Or maybe didn't want to go inside yet and didn't see Zimmerman until he turned a corner. At that time he was out of options and handled the situation poorly. Was it still raining at this point? He used the word old man, again not a word used to describe a person you see as threat.

I have heard plenty of men scream like children/girls when fighting. Kinda weird actually. You wouldn't think a grown man would sound like that, but some do, so can some teenagers as well.

I am going to go read what Zimmerman said happened and see where the discrepancies are in his story.

So far based on the video it seems to me this case is the perfect shit storm of dumb ass behavior by two people. One ended up dead, and the other is scarred for life.

At this point i would say If Zimmerman is guilty of a crime, and I say if, it seems to be nothing more than involuntary manslaughter. I am basing this on what I have seen on the video. I am keeping an open mind until I learn more though.

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Bookmarking to watch later. Thanks. n/t Little Star Jun 2013 #1
Ditto. sinkingfeeling Jun 2013 #2
this confirms my theory grok Jun 2013 #3
Why would Trayvon double back? Tommy_Carcetti Jun 2013 #4
those theories only makes sense noiretextatique Jun 2013 #5
We can assume zimmerman is lying. no problemo grok Jun 2013 #7
so you u are claiming it took 4 minutes to chase trayvon at most 20 feet? grok Jun 2013 #6
"remember we are talking about a big city teenager. not everything they do makes sense" Sheldon Cooper Jun 2013 #8
If you always made sense as a teenager you were exceptional. grok Jun 2013 #9
Sure, but you were the one that advised us to remember that Trayvon was a Sheldon Cooper Jun 2013 #10
just added that for drama grok Jun 2013 #11
So, you're stirring up racial shit? Sheldon Cooper Jun 2013 #12
Actually you seem to be the one bring to race into the argument Lurks Often Jun 2013 #13
Mr. Lee Atwater, everybody. Tommy_Carcetti Jun 2013 #14
Yawn. That the best you can do? n/t Lurks Often Jun 2013 #15
If the shoe fits....nt Tommy_Carcetti Jun 2013 #26
Not in the slightest n/t Lurks Often Jun 2013 #38
Exactly. Sheldon Cooper Jun 2013 #20
It happens when they can't refute your points grok Jun 2013 #18
This message was self-deleted by its author Tommy_Carcetti Jun 2013 #25
Do you think it happens less or more than low-count posters LanternWaste Jun 2013 #35
So everything an adult does, makes sense? Rex Jun 2013 #16
lol Sheldon Cooper Jun 2013 #17
Sorry, I am not making sense now. Rex Jun 2013 #19
I wasn't the one to claim Trayvon had to be sensible.. grok Jun 2013 #21
No you said he could have been unpredictable Rex Jun 2013 #22
fine. which of the facts i stated are in dispute? grok Jun 2013 #23
i know zimmerman apologists, like yourself noiretextatique Jun 2013 #28
Plus 1 and JustAnotherGen Jun 2013 #31
The problem is you don't know the path Zimmerman took trying to find Trayvon. Just Saying Jun 2013 #29
True I don't know the path grok Jun 2013 #41
Do you work JustAnotherGen Jun 2013 #32
this poster has the same argument as every zimmerman apologist noiretextatique Jun 2013 #40
um, yeah noiretextatique Jun 2013 #27
"Big city teenager" talk aside.... Tommy_Carcetti Jun 2013 #24
If all i heard was your initial A-B, comparision, with nothng else grok Jun 2013 #33
The only past data I included was to set up the respective roles the indivduals played that night Tommy_Carcetti Jun 2013 #34
for court purposes I agree the data should be limited grok Jun 2013 #39
one person did many things that didn't make sense, and people like you keep trying to excuse him noiretextatique Jun 2013 #36
of course he was the aggressor: he was BLACK noiretextatique Jun 2013 #37
Stop "profiling" grok Jun 2013 #43
that's what your pal zimmerman did noiretextatique Jun 2013 #44
Yep JustAnotherGen Jun 2013 #30
Wow, long video. I tend to agree with Soundman Jun 2013 #42
yawn...of course you agree with grok noiretextatique Jun 2013 #45
^^^^^THIS^^^^^ n/t HangOnKids Jun 2013 #46
Actually I am ready to double down. Soundman Jun 2013 #47
why on earth would you feel sorry for me? noiretextatique Jun 2013 #48
See, this is why I feel sorry for you. Soundman Jun 2013 #49
it wasn't any of his fucking business noiretextatique Jun 2013 #50
There you go again. Soundman Jun 2013 #51
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