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In reply to the discussion: GCHQ(NSA) tap fibre-optic cables for secret access to world's communications [View all]Catherina
(35,568 posts)92. That's really good news!
I just hope it's to really report and not to divert. I hope they're not foolish enough to try to divert because their credentials have been slipping. Either way, that's good news. Now where's the US press?
Time to round up the usual talking points.
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(video report) ... One such warrant seen by the Guardian shows that they do not contain detailed legal rulings or explanation. Instead, the one-paragraph order, signed by a FISA court judge in 2010, declares that the procedures submitted by the attorney general on behalf of the NSA are consistent with US law and the fourth amendment. (end clip)
GWEN IFILL, NEWSHOUR: Thank you, Glenn. Now for analysis is Rep. Elmer Fudd, chairman of the House Un-Intelligence Activities Committee. Congressman Fudd?
FUDD: Thank you, Gwen. The surveillance was approved by an act of Congress in 2009 and has had judicial review, so it's perfectly legal. And it has stopped terrorist attacks, lots and lots of them.
GWEN: How do you know?
FUDD: Because Congress, or at least my Committee, or at least me and a few others, have been regularly briefed.
GWEN: When? How often?
FUDD: I can't really say. We're sworn to secrecy. I'd like to keep my first-born child, if I could. But the FISA court did sign off on it
GWEN: They seem to have rubber-stamped it.
FUDD: Can't get more efficient than that, yes sirree.
GWEN: And now, it's pledge week, when PBS turns our programming over to local stations so they can keep programs like this on the air.
http://discussion.guardian.co.uk/comment-permalink/24480665
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(video report) ... One such warrant seen by the Guardian shows that they do not contain detailed legal rulings or explanation. Instead, the one-paragraph order, signed by a FISA court judge in 2010, declares that the procedures submitted by the attorney general on behalf of the NSA are consistent with US law and the fourth amendment. (end clip)
GWEN IFILL, NEWSHOUR: Thank you, Glenn. Now for analysis is Rep. Elmer Fudd, chairman of the House Un-Intelligence Activities Committee. Congressman Fudd?
FUDD: Thank you, Gwen. The surveillance was approved by an act of Congress in 2009 and has had judicial review, so it's perfectly legal. And it has stopped terrorist attacks, lots and lots of them.
GWEN: How do you know?
FUDD: Because Congress, or at least my Committee, or at least me and a few others, have been regularly briefed.
GWEN: When? How often?
FUDD: I can't really say. We're sworn to secrecy. I'd like to keep my first-born child, if I could. But the FISA court did sign off on it
GWEN: They seem to have rubber-stamped it.
FUDD: Can't get more efficient than that, yes sirree.
GWEN: And now, it's pledge week, when PBS turns our programming over to local stations so they can keep programs like this on the air.
http://discussion.guardian.co.uk/comment-permalink/24480665
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GCHQ(NSA) tap fibre-optic cables for secret access to world's communications [View all]
Catherina
Jun 2013
OP
And they do. Remember their fun listening to US soldiers' sex chats with their partners?
Catherina
Jun 2013
#8
Which people? The ones who just threw stones telling everone else to move on?
Catherina
Jun 2013
#82
"access to the network of cables which carry the world's phone calls and internet traffic"
snooper2
Jun 2013
#7
Sure did, same thing back then, over-hyped by people that don't understand telecommunications
snooper2
Jun 2013
#17
Or you can pay attention and learn something :) (you didn't give any answer FYI)
snooper2
Jun 2013
#21
There is a little bit of a difference between a lawful intercept telecoms are mandated
snooper2
Jun 2013
#48
Slide about NSA analysts using data coming from both Prism and from the fiber-optic cables
Catherina
Jun 2013
#18
Which means that the FISA laws that supposedly protect Americans are basically irrelevant
Jarla
Jun 2013
#25
How PRISM actually works: 15-20 AT&T fiber optic hubs have NSA-installed splitters just upstream
Catherina
Jun 2013
#27
the thing to understand is there are more than one program, some names were redacted in the slides
Monkie
Jun 2013
#75
Deja DU: Are ALL COMMUNICATIONS routed overseas to circumvent US law and the Constitution?
Coyotl
Jun 2013
#28
This is so scandalous that it's hardly registered a blip at other news outlets.
BenzoDia
Jun 2013
#38
"The welfare of the people in particular has always been the alibi of tyrants,
Tierra_y_Libertad
Jun 2013
#51
I dunno. Everyone here knows damn well that I was one of his most ardent supporters
Catherina
Jun 2013
#74
I wish I had the bandwidth to unignore people who are using that racist brush
Catherina
Jun 2013
#91