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99. we spy on their bad guys, and they spy on our bad guys

Reply to Catherina (Reply #4)

Fri Jun 21, 2013, 07:35 PM

Jun 2013

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GCHQ(NSA) tap fibre-optic cables for secret access to world's communications [View all] Catherina Jun 2013 OP

The British seem much less coy about their names. BlueCheese Jun 2013 #1

Hence Gen Alexander's 'good summer projects for Menwith Hill' Catherina Jun 2013 #4

we spy on their bad guys, and they spy on our bad guys bobduca Jun 2013 #99

"Have fun and make the most of it" jsr Jun 2013 #2

And they do. Remember their fun listening to US soldiers' sex chats with their partners? Catherina Jun 2013 #8

"dont become a case study in a future legalities training presentation" Monkie Jun 2013 #29

Also, hopefully this story will put to bed the tired claim... BlueCheese Jun 2013 #3

Don't worry, premium Jun 2013 #6

The claim is not and has never been that intaglio Jun 2013 #39

This is exploding the whole bloody scheme nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #5

And lots more to come Catherina Jun 2013 #9

Well I am a self hating Jew and white nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #10

My deepest sympathies. Catherina Jun 2013 #13

There is a backhoe over there nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #14

Just let me know when the gifted Military Intel lawyer shows up lol Catherina Jun 2013 #76

Well, the it's all legal cause Congress approved nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #78

It's just one massive CYA right now Catherina Jun 2013 #79

Well, they just charged Snowden nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #81

Which people? The ones who just threw stones telling everone else to move on? Catherina Jun 2013 #82

No, the governmnt nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #85

Actually no it isn't intaglio Jun 2013 #43

Free huge clue nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #56

"access to the network of cables which carry the world's phone calls and internet traffic" snooper2 Jun 2013 #7

Did you ever hear of the AT&T room in San Fran? nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #12

Sure did, same thing back then, over-hyped by people that don't understand telecommunications snooper2 Jun 2013 #17

I suspect we ignorant rubes should go back to sleep nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #19

Or you can pay attention and learn something :) (you didn't give any answer FYI) snooper2 Jun 2013 #21

Keep it real, snooper2! randome Jun 2013 #22

Has it occurred to you that what *YOU KNOW* nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #24

How do you think the NSA gets data back from thousands of CO snooper2 Jun 2013 #45

Yup, we're idiots... nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #49

i really wonder what you are trying to prove by throwing up unrelated jargon Monkie Jun 2013 #94

i feel for you... ProdigalJunkMail Jun 2013 #96

Just curious...what kind of education/background does this take? dkf Jun 2013 #88

what snooper has said so far? Monkie Jun 2013 #95

wow - I'm really impressed temmer Jun 2013 #23

lovely pictures, please explain how there is not narus-like equipment Monkie Jun 2013 #30

Well, you see...the children really nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #37

the problem is people ask these clowns the wrong questions Monkie Jun 2013 #40

When given a chance I do nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #42

"narus like" equipment? snooper2 Jun 2013 #41

you show me yours ill show you mine. what company are you talking about. Monkie Jun 2013 #46

There is a little bit of a difference between a lawful intercept telecoms are mandated snooper2 Jun 2013 #48

then why do you ask me the question you wont answer yourself? Monkie Jun 2013 #52

Would you be willing to look at the discussion Jarla Jun 2013 #60

sorry i didnt notice, have a few things up in the air at once. Monkie Jun 2013 #63

Exactly. nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #65

I understand what you're saying but Jarla Jun 2013 #67

they try to use it as a weapon, but the defense is what you DO know Monkie Jun 2013 #69

But is there any difference in the technology that would be used? Jarla Jun 2013 #55

never heard of internet backbones? nt temmer Jun 2013 #15

yeah, all three of them, and all traffic routes through that magic AT&T room snooper2 Jun 2013 #20

you are not stupid, so why lie to us Monkie Jun 2013 #31

Maybe you should try to read the article. You would learn something. DesMoinesDem Jun 2013 #58

So you think the gov is lying to its staff through these docs usGovOwesUs3Trillion Jun 2013 #73

The Guardian seems determined to go full tilt temmer Jun 2013 #11

And god bless them for it! Catherina Jun 2013 #66

K&R marions ghost Jun 2013 #16

Slide about NSA analysts using data coming from both Prism and from the fiber-optic cables Catherina Jun 2013 #18

Which means that the FISA laws that supposedly protect Americans are basically irrelevant Jarla Jun 2013 #25

How would this differ from ECHELON? FarCenter Jun 2013 #26

How PRISM actually works: 15-20 AT&T fiber optic hubs have NSA-installed splitters just upstream Catherina Jun 2013 #27

I posted about this a few days ago Jarla Jun 2013 #33

I can only see posts 1, 4, 5 and your response to #5 Catherina Jun 2013 #44

Yeah but the AP article that dfk posted a link to Jarla Jun 2013 #53

Unfortunately, I'm not a technician Catherina Jun 2013 #59

Oh, sorry, I wasn't trying to do any hair-splitting Jarla Jun 2013 #61

No no lol Catherina Jun 2013 #64

the thing to understand is there are more than one program, some names were redacted in the slides Monkie Jun 2013 #75

+1 n/t Catherina Jun 2013 #80

Thank You! Jarla Jun 2013 #84

np at all. Monkie Jun 2013 #86

Deja DU: Are ALL COMMUNICATIONS routed overseas to circumvent US law and the Constitution? Coyotl Jun 2013 #28

Betcha not many people realize the NSA has a big presence in the UK jsr Jun 2013 #34

Not to mention, in South Asia. Coyotl Jun 2013 #36

At lase, the BBC has put up a report on this too muriel_volestrangler Jun 2013 #32

That is good news! Catherina Jun 2013 #71

pravda.uk finally bother with this? Monkie Jun 2013 #87

Oh goody, now we get to be accused of racism against the British! DRoseDARs Jun 2013 #35

This is so scandalous that it's hardly registered a blip at other news outlets. BenzoDia Jun 2013 #38

Maybe because it's all deemed legal Life Long Dem Jun 2013 #50

It's on the front page of Reddit right now Jarla Jun 2013 #57

But I thought this was a MSM hit against Obama? usGovOwesUs3Trillion Jun 2013 #77

One thing I noticed hasn't been mentioned yet. Arctic Dave Jun 2013 #47

Prism is only 1 part. There are so many parts to this beast. Catherina Jun 2013 #62

Oh, I've seen something about Blarney Jarla Jun 2013 #68

"commercial partnerships" Catherina Jun 2013 #72

if i were to guess Monkie Jun 2013 #89

Interesting. Thank you. I do expect more lol Catherina Jun 2013 #90

i love how greenwald uses language Monkie Jun 2013 #93

"The welfare of the people in particular has always been the alibi of tyrants, Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2013 #51

Wider Coverage...Thanks Catherina KoKo Jun 2013 #54

That's really good news! Catherina Jun 2013 #92

Why do you hate Obama? usGovOwesUs3Trillion Jun 2013 #70

I dunno. Everyone here knows damn well that I was one of his most ardent supporters Catherina Jun 2013 #74

I take comfort in the numbers usGovOwesUs3Trillion Jun 2013 #83

I wish I had the bandwidth to unignore people who are using that racist brush Catherina Jun 2013 #91

Excellent point! usGovOwesUs3Trillion Jun 2013 #98

HUGE K & R !!! WillyT Jun 2013 #97