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ellisonz

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99. Most of the Arab World is antisemitic.

Mon Feb 13, 2012, 04:03 PM

Feb 2012

When they say Jewish they basically mean enemy. You have to remember that there haven't been Jews in a country like Libya in significant numbers in 50 years. The word is morphing in meaning. Antisemitism is a rote reaction.

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Caught on video: Horrifying proof that Libya's freedom fighters have turned into brutal torturers [View all] David__77 Feb 2012 OP

To some of us it was obvious that we were not backing "good guys". Bonobo Feb 2012 #1

It fixed everything we wanted fixed, the existing tax structure for oil exlporation and production. Arctic Dave Feb 2012 #3

You mean the tax structure that robbed all oil revenue from the Libyan people? TheWraith Feb 2012 #4

Do we really have to go through this again? Did you not learn your lesson last time? Arctic Dave Feb 2012 #75

Really, can you provide some specific details? tabatha Feb 2012 #9

I would have thought you would have learned your lesson last time we went around on this. Arctic Dave Feb 2012 #77

Really? You are dismissing a whole nation because of the acts of a few. tabatha Feb 2012 #5

I didn't dismiss a whole nation. I will tell you specifically who I dismissed. Bonobo Feb 2012 #8

I supported the intervention because of humanitarian reasons. tabatha Feb 2012 #12

First, the Jewish thing. Bonobo Feb 2012 #32

Most of the black people in Libya were there to wor the oil fields Nevernose Feb 2012 #38

My mistake. Thanks for the correction. nt Bonobo Feb 2012 #40

Crickets on the jewish thing? I gave you the answer you requested. Bonobo Feb 2012 #47

Most of the Arab World is antisemitic. ellisonz Feb 2012 #99

This message was self-deleted by its author polly7 Feb 2012 #101

Thank you, Bonobo. Once I saw how brutal and racist the sabrina 1 Feb 2012 #15

Boy, you would have had a hard time living in South Africa after 1994. tabatha Feb 2012 #25

Yes, another African Nation destroyed by Colonialism. sabrina 1 Feb 2012 #31

Gaddafi came to power thanks to the CIA. joshcryer Feb 2012 #35

Where the EFF did I say something about colonialism. tabatha Feb 2012 #41

I gave up responding to you as you always devolve into personal attacks. sabrina 1 Feb 2012 #55

Obama has always been pro-intervention, he was against unilaterally using power... joshcryer Feb 2012 #67

And that was a contradiction of what he said in 2007. sabrina 1 Feb 2012 #85

No, he did not. That is simply false, total revisionism. joshcryer Feb 2012 #88

That is not the quote I am talking about. sabrina 1 Feb 2012 #93

And yet, that position does not suggest that he "opposed it" as you falsely claimed. joshcryer Feb 2012 #94

I'm going to end this conversation because it is the second time you have reverted to sabrina 1 Feb 2012 #95

Her intentions are good? Don't kid yourself. Having observed pattern of her posting here - Fool Count Feb 2012 #102

I disagree. What is needed is perspective. joshcryer Feb 2012 #28

42 years of violence by the state tiny elvis Feb 2012 #50

Good advice, stop allowing the propaganda we receive here to influence sabrina 1 Feb 2012 #57

Huh? joshcryer Feb 2012 #68

Please see post #6 tabatha Feb 2012 #7

Broad brush, much? joshcryer Feb 2012 #19

It is mind boggling. tabatha Feb 2012 #26

When China comes in and arms the OWS movement Bonobo Feb 2012 #33

So, actions of a few can be applied to a whole group if there's a mass insurgency or violent unrest. joshcryer Feb 2012 #36

My chief criticism is against those who support US military intervention in other countries. Bonobo Feb 2012 #46

It was going to be bad either way. joshcryer Feb 2012 #52

No, it wasn't going to be bad. That is what you are meant to believe. sabrina 1 Feb 2012 #86

Patently dishonest. joshcryer Feb 2012 #87

Another personal attack from you. sabrina 1 Feb 2012 #96

Well said...nt SidDithers Feb 2012 #43

We will never learn, will we? chrisa Feb 2012 #22

Did you know that there are some ex-freedom fighters who are protecting the Tawerga in Libya? tabatha Feb 2012 #2

Yes, there is no unified force. David__77 Feb 2012 #14

Freedom fighters, my @ss. EFerrari Feb 2012 #18

Wise, my ass. tabatha Feb 2012 #27

You're still defending these people, not only after their abuses have become plain EFerrari Feb 2012 #39

If you read what I said tabatha Feb 2012 #44

Do you give South African whites the pass on apartheid as you did Germans vis a vis Nazism? nt Bonobo Feb 2012 #48

Nope. Because I personally fought against it. tabatha Feb 2012 #56

Got it. Germans = not responsible. South Africans = responsible. Bonobo Feb 2012 #59

Nope you have got it wrong. tabatha Feb 2012 #63

BTW, I was arrested demonstrating for divestment from the Apartheid govt. of S. Africa. nt Bonobo Feb 2012 #66

And in response to this OP, you post an incredibly idiotic propaganda piece EFerrari Feb 2012 #49

20k were murdered during apartheid, 175k were murdered after. joshcryer Feb 2012 #21

Yes, it is funny how some people here are unwittingly mimicking the pro-apartheid people. tabatha Feb 2012 #30

They're indistinguishable from the pro-apartheid people. joshcryer Feb 2012 #53

OMG. You have not only jumped the shark. Bonobo Feb 2012 #58

Militias from Benghazi and Zintan are trying to protect a refugee camp of 1,500 people tabatha Feb 2012 #6

Actually more judging of American people for the actions of their government would be a good thing. Bonobo Feb 2012 #10

Yes, if the truth is known. tabatha Feb 2012 #23

"I do not blame Germans who had no part in the decisions made by Hitler. " Bonobo Feb 2012 #37

You really stretech the meaning of what I say. tabatha Feb 2012 #60

I did not assign anything to you. Bonobo Feb 2012 #62

Still waiting for your reply to the anti-semitic issue re the Libyan rebels. n Bonobo Feb 2012 #65

It is simply not worth the effort. tabatha Feb 2012 #70

I am referring to the anti-semitism of the Libyan rebels. Bonobo Feb 2012 #71

I've seen this before. joshcryer Feb 2012 #74

I think you need sleep. Bonobo Feb 2012 #78

Yes, I looked up that quote, you conveniently left out the whole quote. joshcryer Feb 2012 #80

The rest of the quote did nothing to change the meaning. Bonobo Feb 2012 #83

The book in question, if I am not wrong, does not absolve the German people either. sabrina 1 Feb 2012 #97

"Judge the individual": did that apply to the pro-Gaddafi forces? David__77 Feb 2012 #16

Yes, any pro-Gaddafi force that took part in atrocities of their own free will are guilty. tabatha Feb 2012 #24

And those that did not, are not guilty. David__77 Feb 2012 #29

Correction to the OP. They didn't "turn" into anything. They always were. nanabugg Feb 2012 #11

Wow, what a judge you are. tabatha Feb 2012 #20

Well, we did probably pay them to sit back and whack Ghadafi and his family. Not sure why. n/t Leopolds Ghost Feb 2012 #13

Or at least 3 random thugs. Swede Feb 2012 #17

Yes, because these 3 assholes represent all the rebels! *SARCASM* Odin2005 Feb 2012 #34

The people of Tawergha have not been allowed to go home. David__77 Feb 2012 #42

See post 89. Odin2005 Feb 2012 #90

Systematic abuse of detainees has been reported at a number of facilities, unfortunately. EFerrari Feb 2012 #45

I am not defending those commiting abuses. Odin2005 Feb 2012 #89

And the French were evil for helping us in the American Revolution?? JoePhilly Feb 2012 #51

Have the Libyan rebels produced any great works of political philosophy? Bonobo Feb 2012 #54

Is that how you judge a people. tabatha Feb 2012 #61

It is how I judge how prepared they are to set up a good, mature political system. Bonobo Feb 2012 #64

Heh, it took 5 years for the US to vote after the Revolutionary War. joshcryer Feb 2012 #69

Again, it is not a trashing of the Libyan people. Bonobo Feb 2012 #72

"it is not a trashing of the Libyan people" "a true people's movement" joshcryer Feb 2012 #73

Huh? You totally missed my point. Bonobo Feb 2012 #76

1) a peoples are not represented by their fighters 2) fighters do not represent the sole source... joshcryer Feb 2012 #79

Look how well it is going. Bonobo Feb 2012 #81

Continue trashing. joshcryer Feb 2012 #82

Yes,I will keep on resisting US military intervention and killing. Thanks. nt Bonobo Feb 2012 #84

So you were against us interviening in Bosnia? Odin2005 Feb 2012 #91

No, I wasn't. But like I said, the US is batting .100 or below. Bonobo Feb 2012 #92

You're not alone, fortunately. And now it seems the rest of the world is resisting it also. sabrina 1 Feb 2012 #98

And we're surprised? Taverner Feb 2012 #100