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dflprincess

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37. There was a link here in the last few weeks
Sat Jun 22, 2013, 12:08 AM
Jun 2013

(and I'm too tired to look for it) that listed what the cost of plans that would be available with Obamacare and their varying levels of coverage and deductibles. -- It might have been the cost California plans that will be available.

However, while the actual costs of the insurance have not been available, the information about what kinds of plans will be supported/allowed by the ACA has been and it has been clear that high out of pocket (aka "consumer driven&quot plans will be allowed. It was also laid out in the ACA that premiums must be paid up front and "subsidies" applied for at the time income taxes are filed. The $6K+ annual deductible (for a single person) and at what rate it will increase annually, is spelled out in the ACA as is what expenses are not subject to the deductible.

Minnesota has had some plans for lower income people and has picked up the Medicaid extension. My mother qualified for the state's "Minnesota Senior Health Options" (MSHO) as her Medicare suppliment and never paid anything but a $3.00 copay for brand name drugs and $1 for generic - and the copays had a max amount of something like $24/month. This included a few hospital stays and one major surgery. I'm quite fortunate in that my employer still offers very good insurance. And, as I found out when I broke my wrist last fall, it is a plan that pays claims quickly and with no hassles - of course, it is a non-profit company (and, having been insured by both for and non profit companies I can attest to the non-profits generally being much easier to deal with).

I have read quite a lot of the ACA and articles about it - all it does is require a person to have insurance, it does not guarantee that they will be able to afford care when they need it.

Remember, what is now called Obamacare, was originally the Heritage Foundation's plan - doubtful that anyone there was concerned with anything but protecting profits.

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Yep! cbdo2007 Jun 2013 #1
I hope the multistate plans really take off and keep existing insurers honest on rate hikes. BenzoDia Jun 2013 #2
Yup. n/t ProSense Jun 2013 #3
My family is anxiously awaiting the federal exchange rates since WI won't comply with the law AllyCat Jun 2013 #4
al strikeforce Jun 2013 #30
But if it doesn't meet a minimum standard AllyCat Jun 2013 #39
Keep getting the word out!!! K&R!! hue Jun 2013 #5
KnR, this should be front page news ucrdem Jun 2013 #6
The 80/20 rule applies Motown_Johnny Jun 2013 #7
80/20 goes both ways alc Jun 2013 #28
What is a "mid-level" policy? emmadoggy Jun 2013 #8
emma strikeforce Jun 2013 #31
When the Democratic Party congress Iliyah Jun 2013 #9
k&r HappyMe Jun 2013 #10
My insurance rate dropped $90 a month with OCare. ErikJ Jun 2013 #11
I found out that Medicare isn't free either flamingdem Jun 2013 #12
Thats from Republicon meddling with Medicare with privatizing options ErikJ Jun 2013 #15
Medicare is a complicated subject. . . h2ebits Jun 2013 #17
wow! That's complicated. I will save this for future reference flamingdem Jun 2013 #19
The full unsubsidized part A & B premium is like $900 / month Recursion Jun 2013 #20
The best thing about Obamacare is the way it empowers consumers. dawg Jun 2013 #13
Great news ...BUT SoCalDem Jun 2013 #14
Single payer will eventually Iliyah Jun 2013 #16
That's hardly the only model that works Recursion Jun 2013 #21
Maybe so Iliyah Jun 2013 #22
This message was self-deleted by its author dflprincess Jun 2013 #32
That's why I didn't say "socialized medicine" Recursion Jun 2013 #33
Whoops dflprincess Jun 2013 #35
K&R! sheshe2 Jun 2013 #18
The barebones plans on Obamacare's marketplaces also have outrageous out of pockets. dflprincess Jun 2013 #34
I do not know what State that you live in, dflprincess. sheshe2 Jun 2013 #36
There was a link here in the last few weeks dflprincess Jun 2013 #37
How interesting. area51 Jun 2013 #23
Shh, don't say that. You could get arrested! leftstreet Jun 2013 #29
This message was self-deleted by its author blkmusclmachine Jun 2013 #24
This was the fear the GOP has, it will work and Democrats will get a generation of voters vinny9698 Jun 2013 #25
Yep. LWolf Jun 2013 #26
K & R Scurrilous Jun 2013 #27
What accounts for reports of higher premiums thus far? Beartracks Jun 2013 #38
Trump is probably soiling himself right now Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Oct 2018 #40
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