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In reply to the discussion: The abuse of FISA, prosecuting whistleblowers, PRISM, kill lists. Guess what. It isn't about Obama [View all]Red Oak
(699 posts)Bullshit?
Not so much.
Here are just a few specific examples, shown below with references, showing that Federal agencies can, do and have remotely turned on cell phones and in-car systems such as On-Star to listen into conversations. I would be glad to provide you with more.
The bottom line, technically, is this. If you have a computer-based, network-connected device such as a computer, cell phone, iPad or Android tablet, onboard car system such as the On-Star system, cable TV box, gaming console, Voip phone, etc. the NSA, FBI and other Federal agencies have the technical ability to turn them on remotely and use them, either real-time or time delayed, to gather whatever information they can about you. There is no question about whether or not this is technically possible. The issue is whether it is legal and should be allowed.
It is also within the technical capabilities of the NSA and other Federal agencies to collect all information, not just metadata, but the information content as well, and store it for a long time for future reference as needed including all voice calls and all emails, your browsing history, your viewing habits, along with a large amount of video. There is also access to normal commercial databases such as social media,credit card purchases, credit scoring information, bank records, even health records. If you would like I can take you through the math on memory allocation needed by information type (the only memory hog here is storgage of video), data storage and compression to show you why this is possible, but don't want this post any longer than it is already.
Yes, what the NSA is doing is legal. And wrong! Slavery and women not being allowed to vote used to be legal. They were also wrong.
I do not see how having all of my communications being picked up and stored without a warrant squares with the fourth amendment to our Constitution. So short and sweet, here it is for reference: The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
So I am "secure in my papers and effects" without a warrant? I'm not feeling it.
I would be glad to see your references on why you think the NSA being able monitor all your communications and networked data, real time or time delayed, as well as collecting and storage of that information is 'bullshit".
References:
^ a b Schneier, Bruce (December 5, 2006). "Remotely Eavesdropping on Cell Phone Microphones"
. Schneier On Security. Retrieved 13 December 2009.
^ a b McCullagh, Declan; Anne Broache (December 1, 2006). "FBI taps cell phone mic as eavesdropping tool"
. CNet News. Retrieved 2009-03-14.
^ a b Odell, Mark (August 1, 2005). "Use of mobile helped police keep tabs on suspect"
. Financial Times. Retrieved 2009-03-14.
^ a b "Telephones"
. Western Regional Security Office (NOAA official site). 2001. Retrieved 2009-03-22.
^ a b "Can You Hear Me Now?"
. ABC News: The Blotter. Retrieved 13 December 2009.
^ Lewis Page (2007-06-26). "'Cell hack geek stalks pretty blonde shocker'"
. The Register. Retrieved 2010-05-01.
^ FBI taps cell phone mic as eavesdropping tool.
, CNET News.com, 1 December 2006
^ Court Leaves the Door Open for Safety System Wiretaps
, The New York Times, 21 December 2003