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rhett o rick

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74. You are exactly right. I am beginning to think that our president is not much more

Sat Jun 22, 2013, 11:50 AM

Jun 2013

than a figurehead position. The economic structure and intelligence services are the same as they have been for a decade. I wouldnt doubt that other agencies are also the same basic structure. This doesnt mean that Pres Obama doesnt shape some policy but take the NDAA and indefinite detention. He seemed to be to be honestly against it but couldnt seen to change it. Does his continued renewal of the Patriot Act mean he favors it or hasnt the power to change it?

As I have said before, I think when he got into office (I actually believe it may have happened before he got into office) he was told that the Military-Intellegence-Complex had a great spy machinery working to keep America safe and if he appointed some damn liberal Democrat to run it, it would turn into a mess and endanger the country.

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While you weren't looking, Obama still pushing for chained CPI Social Security cuts [View all] brentspeak Jun 2013 OP

And he's got his SS commission to tell lies about SS duffyduff Jun 2013 #1

Peter G. Peterson is an Evil POS warrant46 Jun 2013 #51

Alan Simpson and Erskine Bowles are at the top of "Fix the Debt" leadership Triana Jun 2013 #54

And "good 'ol Dem Ed Rendell" fredamae Jun 2013 #56

Him and Obama both Triana Jun 2013 #57

That's it right there- fredamae Jun 2013 #58

We need to jab 'em up the ass with the proverbial hot political poker Triana Jun 2013 #78

If you support "Raising the CAP", you should have voted for this guy! bvar22 Jun 2013 #87

Perfect. They_Live Jun 2013 #95

Hey...anybody surprised? nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #2

But won't that help pay for spying and wars? usGovOwesUs3Trillion Jun 2013 #3

If only you could make it clear what you mean??? truedelphi Jun 2013 #32

If you don't support a Dem president enacting GOP goals you're a racist. nt Nuclear Unicorn Jun 2013 #53

I Didnt Miss It... rsmith6621 Jun 2013 #4

This pisses me off to no end. mick063 Jun 2013 #5

I feel the same way. Nt newfie11 Jun 2013 #35

Yeah, me too. SammyWinstonJack Jun 2013 #63

I agree completely MissDeeds Jun 2013 #82

I am with you rurallib Jun 2013 #69

+ 1000 n/t MissDeeds Jun 2013 #83

If Ms. Clinton were president would she do anything different? nm rhett o rick Jun 2013 #6

No. Cleita Jun 2013 #7

How much will be left to sell off if she gets the chance? n/t jtuck004 Jun 2013 #8

No, but Elizabeth Warren might do things very differently. JDPriestly Jun 2013 #18

She will still have to deal with the MIC...though. KoKo Jun 2013 #62

You are exactly right. I am beginning to think that our president is not much more rhett o rick Jun 2013 #74

No... awoke_in_2003 Jun 2013 #26

I trust him as much as Elizabeth Warren. He was made DNC chairman to keep him in line. pacalo Jun 2013 #101

I too would summer-hazz Jun 2013 #31

HRC would do exactly the same. WinkyDink Jun 2013 #41

I agree, 100%. Enthusiast Jun 2013 #42

well damn... summer-hazz Jun 2013 #106

To post a link just go to the address bar at the top of the page it's on and copy and then paste it sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #103

Thank you sabrina 1 summer-hazz Jun 2013 #105

No, and that's why we were invited to choose between those two options. Marr Jun 2013 #73

Remember the night of the Iowa Democratic Caucus? bvar22 Jun 2013 #89

I do remember that, yep. Marr Jun 2013 #91

"have to drop the narrative in deference to basic logic"... bvar22 Jun 2013 #94

I remember that, too Lydia Leftcoast Jun 2013 #108

I think of other words, in my analogy, but truedelphi Jun 2013 #113

K & R. historylovr Jun 2013 #9

I wouldn't expect anything else from Obama...screwing over the vulnerable forestpath Jun 2013 #10

expect kardonb Jun 2013 #14

Sure nobody is perfect. Fuddnik Jun 2013 #15

I can't believe anyone talks like this. This MUST be a parody! forestpath Jun 2013 #16

No chained CPI. No cuts to Social Security. JDPriestly Jun 2013 #19

Agreed. No way. mbperrin Jun 2013 #27

But but the rich would have to pay more newfie11 Jun 2013 #36

Obviously,we think Robme would have been worse. dawg Jun 2013 #50

This ^^^^ ctsnowman Jun 2013 #80

... SammyWinstonJack Jun 2013 #64

Poutrage is an addiction Floyd_Gondolli Jun 2013 #84

Fooled ya! blkmusclmachine Jun 2013 #93

K & R !!! WillyT Jun 2013 #11

Correctamundo... ReRe Jun 2013 #12

Yeah, how about that. Maybe the whole reason for the scandals is so we don't notice the truedelphi Jun 2013 #33

Back in the day... ReRe Jun 2013 #38

Supposed "media" Enthusiast Jun 2013 #43

Trashing this. AverageJoe90 Jun 2013 #13

It isn't whether he wants it. It is whether he is willing to accept it. JDPriestly Jun 2013 #22

"Does Obama WANT a no-can-do Republican Congress?" Enthusiast Jun 2013 #44

I think he does too. JDPriestly Jun 2013 #107

*10 avaistheone1 Jun 2013 #109

Oh he does "talk like a Democrat" - when he's running. kenny blankenship Jun 2013 #79

Re: "Why can't he stand up and act and talk like a Democrat?" Believe me........... AverageJoe90 Jun 2013 #112

Yes, Obama the man who fights and fights and fights for the truedelphi Jun 2013 #34

Everything you posted should be plastered all over greatest page newfie11 Jun 2013 #37

This message was self-deleted by its author KoKo Jun 2013 #68

If he doesn't want it why is he PUSHING it? MotherPetrie Jun 2013 #60

Because he's not actually pushing for it, regardless of how the MSM interprets things. n/t AverageJoe90 Jun 2013 #110

LOL, you are not really paying attention. n-t Logical Jun 2013 #72

I could say the same, but I'd be closer to the truth. n/t AverageJoe90 Jun 2013 #111

Head. Sand. Problem solved! nt Union Scribe Jun 2013 #97

someone's gotta pay for those weapons dtom67 Jun 2013 #17

But... But... But... quakerboy Jun 2013 #20

Oh brother. More old news to bash the President. Coccydynia Jun 2013 #21

Hey. We don't create the news. Obama does. JDPriestly Jun 2013 #23

I totally agree with you. Coccydynia Jun 2013 #25

I'm not seeing a whole lot of 'working' for us at this point. SammyWinstonJack Jun 2013 #65

You've got that right! marew Jun 2013 #75

You mean chained CPI is already implemented? Pholus Jun 2013 #52

question: is there any current policy issue that loyalists don't love love love? nashville_brook Jun 2013 #59

Yep. And, giving cover for bad behavior just breeds more of the same. GoneFishin Jun 2013 #66

they have *no* line to cross, and they've been admitting it since 2008 MisterP Jun 2013 #77

And THAT is the Beauty of "Centrism"! bvar22 Jun 2013 #90

Racist progressoid Jun 2013 #24

Obama and his admin won't magically "change". delrem Jun 2013 #28

Very racist to suggest that the President would ever contemplate such a thing jsr Jun 2013 #29

We should look Liberal In Texas Jun 2013 #30

^ Wilms Jun 2013 #39

I'm pretty sure this didn't pass by us. WinkyDink Jun 2013 #40

It is odd that social security has Enthusiast Jun 2013 #45

the business of gov't is business. and that business is war. KG Jun 2013 #46

If that is true, it should not be. Enthusiast Jun 2013 #47

Watch out mick063 Jun 2013 #49

He told us we need to hold his feet to the fire East Coast Pirate Jun 2013 #48

nothing more current than april 11? madrchsod Jun 2013 #55

NOT what I VOTED for! SammyWinstonJack Jun 2013 #61

Hey Democrats. 99Forever Jun 2013 #67

Rope-a-dope! Marr Jun 2013 #70

As God is my witness (or not, depending on your religious views), if that subject rears it's ugly silvershadow Jun 2013 #71

Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 2013 #76

not HiPointDem Jun 2013 #86

wow...that's completely uninformed. nashville_brook Jun 2013 #88

Lol. Union Scribe Jun 2013 #98

Too bad Obama didn't think there should be a red line on SS. ctsnowman Jun 2013 #81

kr HiPointDem Jun 2013 #85

Obama is determined to reform us out of our Social Security savings accounts. blkmusclmachine Jun 2013 #92

K&R NealK Jun 2013 #96

At the risk of appearing "racist", do I have the right to feel resentment pacalo Jun 2013 #99

Slaves have no say in what their masters do. DeSwiss Jun 2013 #100

If it's significantly less than my last increase bearssoapbox Jun 2013 #102

It has been, is Newest Reality Jun 2013 #104