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flamingdem

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31. This is my question as well. Depending on the outcome we'll be able to narrow

Sat Jun 22, 2013, 03:08 PM

Jun 2013

it down but I'm not sure we'll have a definitive answer.

It seems like he had too many things in place for this to have been done without "help".

This includes the protests in Hong Kong, that was very fast and convenient. Enthusiasm
for him was whipped up in Hong Kong and in China.

In a Chinese paper it said that two groups in Hong Kong were sponsoring the protests,
one more "independent" the other a front group for the Chinese Government party.

China is all over this situation. Why else would Snowden be spilling the beans specifically
about US spying in China / HK?

This one is a no brainer that his supporters refuse to deal with -- and all of this before a
critical meeting in mid-July between top US and Chinese representatives...

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Snowden is going to be prosecuted. [View all] ProSense Jun 2013 OP

so did the bankers and rating agencies dsc Jun 2013 #1

Bush and Cheney... and the rest of their gang Ichingcarpenter Jun 2013 #2

Actually, ProSense Jun 2013 #4

You are a smart lady Aerows Jun 2013 #9

Did you even click on that link. Skidmore Jun 2013 #45

I read what I was supposed to read Aerows Jun 2013 #46

And what is even MORE informative, is who isn't on that list. TheMadMonk Jun 2013 #85

Oh, you are DU Land. Don't you know that no one who works for a bank as ever been charged with any RB TexLa Jun 2013 #28

Racism Aerows Jun 2013 #48

Not unless he evades capture... Cooley Hurd Jun 2013 #3

All these other people did illegal things Life Long Dem Jun 2013 #5

Probably because he has Aerows Jun 2013 #6

add: hater n/t L0oniX Jun 2013 #30

I forgot that one Aerows Jun 2013 #34

you may be chomping at the bit for him to be extradited or even better from your pov cali Jun 2013 #7

Well, ProSense Jun 2013 #10

As a pragmatist how you claim to think is moot. Your actions express your will, not your Bluenorthwest Jun 2013 #15

LOL! ProSense Jun 2013 #17

Oh my Aerows Jun 2013 #49

..... cali Jun 2013 #26

Can I get a side of Aerows Jun 2013 #50

And your constant condemnation of Mr Snowden, as a traitor... TheMadMonk Jun 2013 #87

Wonder if he'll get the drone penalty. The Link Jun 2013 #8

Too bad he didn't form himself a HUGE bank and enrich himself by tanking the economy FIRST. MotherPetrie Jun 2013 #11

Ergo, the Obama administration isn't spying on every American MannyGoldstein Jun 2013 #12

Here's some information for you: ProSense Jun 2013 #16

Has the Obama admin not collected records of my phone calls? MannyGoldstein Jun 2013 #19

Break the Law Security Clearence and What Keeps Me in Bondage jonkyo Jun 2013 #13

How many think a good defense for Snowden will be Bush and Cheney broke laws so it is okay if Thinkingabout Jun 2013 #14

People noise Jun 2013 #22

i never claimed Bush or Cheney has not committed crimes, I don't think Bush, Cheney or Snowden Thinkingabout Jun 2013 #65

Daniel Ellsberg was prosecuted too. n/m Morning Dew Jun 2013 #18

The Six Tricky Steps to Edward Snowden's Extradition - The Atlantic describes outcomes flamingdem Jun 2013 #20

Adding to this: Hong Kong has asked for Chinese government intervention flamingdem Jun 2013 #21

As he should be. But I want to know whose patsy he was. n/t Whisp Jun 2013 #23

+1 n/t Lady Freedom Returns Jun 2013 #27

This is my question as well. Depending on the outcome we'll be able to narrow flamingdem Jun 2013 #31

lots of unanswered still. Whisp Jun 2013 #38

I did a search on Greenwald libertarian and found this DU thread flamingdem Jun 2013 #44

thanks, missed that one. edit: !! Whisp Jun 2013 #47

Why are you so convinced he was anyone's "patsy"? cali Jun 2013 #35

What about the secrets he gave to Hong Kong and China? flamingdem Jun 2013 #39

could well be a tactic to avoid extradition. there you go. cali Jun 2013 #41

You can rule out Obama n/t Aerows Jun 2013 #52

Are you delighted? rug Jun 2013 #24

I would argue that whoever hired him with that suspect resume malaise Jun 2013 #25

^this^ Aerows Jun 2013 #53

Was he? All we know is he worked for BAH Recursion Jun 2013 #83

N.S.A. spokesman: �In the United States, you can�t spy on people.� L0oniX Jun 2013 #29

He ran off to the Chinese and gave them intel. Rex Jun 2013 #32

Them Chinese Newspaper in Hong Kong bobduca Jun 2013 #36

Why don't you try addressing his point Floyd_Gondolli Jun 2013 #86

"rather than replying like an insufferable dolt" bobduca Jun 2013 #88

Provide evidence. Hissyspit Jun 2013 #37

Dick "mushroom cloud" Cheney said so. pa28 Jun 2013 #62

So you think he was on Mars? Rex Jun 2013 #68

He didn't do anything unethical, but people will try to hurt him, ZombieHorde Jun 2013 #33

Yeah. Ellsberg was prosecuted, too. Hissyspit Jun 2013 #40

Snowden is not Ellsberg. n/t ProSense Jun 2013 #54

by which I take it you mean that Snowden is no Ellsberg. cali Jun 2013 #55

Well, ProSense Jun 2013 #56

just noting how you're using Ellsberg in a cali Jun 2013 #57

LOL! ProSense Jun 2013 #59

you asked. cali Jun 2013 #60

It's so cali Jun 2013 #42

They prosecuted Daniel Ellsberg also. former9thward Jun 2013 #43

No surprise. If he was a war criminal or a bankster and was prosecuted...now, that would shock Zorra Jun 2013 #51

. . . in absentia. leveymg Jun 2013 #58

Prosecuted for spying by revealing that we are all being spied on. pa28 Jun 2013 #61

He is not being charged with spying. You must not have read the complaint filed with the Court. Tx4obama Jun 2013 #63

He exposed the federal government for its mhatrw Jun 2013 #71

He is being charged with espionage, Art_from_Ark Jun 2013 #72

He might even have to sit naked in a prison cell. The horror! MjolnirTime Jun 2013 #64

good to know which duers make light of, if not out and out support, torture. cali Jun 2013 #66

I remember episodes of intense poutrage. MjolnirTime Jun 2013 #82

You're making light of torturing someone who wasn't even convicted of a crime yet? magellan Jun 2013 #78

Snowden broke the law? ljm2002 Jun 2013 #67

I usually pay more attention to legal analysis Ms. Toad Jun 2013 #69

So did Harriet Tubman. mhatrw Jun 2013 #70

He wasn't CHARGED with anything. Hasn't Cali_Democrat set you straight about that? cherokeeprogressive Jun 2013 #73

You can throw him in the deepest hole on earth Union Scribe Jun 2013 #74

Or not. cali Jun 2013 #75

I just came here to post those exact words! Hissyspit Jun 2013 #76

I hope so. Though what the U.S. will do to either of those countries is a cali Jun 2013 #77

This message was self-deleted by its author Cali_Democrat Jun 2013 #79

how are feeling about Venezuela? cali Jun 2013 #80

No, he won't but he'd better stay off of small airplanes tularetom Jun 2013 #81

Prosense, do you think what Snowden did was a good thing? Yes or No? n-t Logical Jun 2013 #84