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Reply to woo me with science (Reply #25)

Sat Jun 22, 2013, 04:57 PM

Jun 2013

But it is in the back of our minds every time.

We filed one over two folks detained over a local fire...not national security.

We got the answer from Cal Fire kind of on the side. Every local agency has been begging the DOI to ban shooting during fire season. Like it is in state and county lands. Guess what was the cause of the fire?

DOI had jurisdiction since the fire moved into federal lands, and Federal Rangers did the taking into custody shtick.

We are still waiting for an answer from the Feds...three weeks on. I consider that hardly transparent.

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That was the side Obama supported. /nt Ash_F Jun 2013 #5

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Let me try a logic exercise with you. nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #7

It's oversimplifying to say the government is not more transparent treestar Jun 2013 #15

You try filing FOIAs. nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #18

I have filed FOIAs treestar Jun 2013 #20

Hey, Nadin, do you know what ever happened with this? woo me with science Jun 2013 #25

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when people opposed the expansion of surveillance when Bush/Cheney were in power was that racism? Douglas Carpenter Jun 2013 #91

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