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Monkie

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41. well, but were you not saying snowden could not be trusted for doing what you are doing?

Sat Jun 22, 2013, 05:11 PM

Jun 2013

you claimed snowden made exaggerated claims, only to change his tune with the leaks.
and now you are doing the same, when someone shows you up.
so by using your logic you cant be trusted.
too funny.

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Snowden: "I Had No Contact with the Chinese Government," "Predictable Smear." [View all] Hissyspit Jun 2013 OP

Those ever so nice, privacy loving, folks at the NSA and CIA smear?!!? Perish the thought! Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2013 #1

Wait just a second. There were a number of DU posters that were positive that rhett o rick Jun 2013 #2

He requested the information be published prior to Xi Jinping's visit siligut Jun 2013 #8

I have no problem with suspicion. It's when people are dead sure, that bothers me. nm rhett o rick Jun 2013 #13

Agree! Katashi_itto Jun 2013 #16

Maybe he's just a fan of irony. JoeyT Jun 2013 #14

Snowden actually helped Obama Politicalboi Jun 2013 #32

Xi is his surname. tarheelsunc Jun 2013 #45

Oops. JoeyT Jun 2013 #75

And then there is the fact that Jinping's dad was a propaganda minister siligut Jun 2013 #58

Plus why in the world would someone "out" himself before making truedelphi Jun 2013 #53

Wait... dennis4868 Jun 2013 #39

those boxes in the garage..do keep up Swagman Jun 2013 #77

Okay and I believe the guy with the whistler162 Jun 2013 #3

^^this^^nt Progressive dog Jun 2013 #6

The man lied on his resume. He said he "saw things" but never said what they were. randome Jun 2013 #4

I'm also suspicious perdita9 Jun 2013 #10

It can be said that he started a conversation but there were definitely better ways to do that. randome Jun 2013 #11

He's either a paid pawn of the Chinese or an unwitting stooge of the Chinese Major Nikon Jun 2013 #17

Or of the CATO Institute and their ilk. GoCubsGo Jun 2013 #38

Did the history of seizures raise your suspicion too siligut Jun 2013 #54

What does that have to do with anything? GoCubsGo Jun 2013 #66

Dupes may have been subjected to brain manipulation siligut Jun 2013 #71

Yes, I meant it generically. GoCubsGo Jun 2013 #72

Greenwald didn't report that. He didn't write one article about the U.S. hacking private computers Luminous Animal Jun 2013 #79

He also lied about what he had access to and his salary Major Nikon Jun 2013 #15

My personal opinion is that he is NOT a spy for the Chinese. randome Jun 2013 #20

That charge about the salary is untrue pscot Jun 2013 #55

So where did he earn $200,000? Major Nikon Jun 2013 #64

Dell. His base salary was $160,000 but he receive regular performance bonuses. Luminous Animal Jun 2013 #80

I haven't seen that anywhere Major Nikon Jun 2013 #81

You need to get a new tune. That one is getting old. And again no one is asking you to rhett o rick Jun 2013 #19

I agree. So why do threads keep popping up about him? Like this one. randome Jun 2013 #21

It looks like new information. Disparaging him will not make the problem go away. nm rhett o rick Jun 2013 #23

He has nothing to do with the problem. randome Jun 2013 #24

its weird, he/she was actually quoting from the docs proving there was content Monkie Jun 2013 #26

For the record: 'his'. randome Jun 2013 #29

I see a certain desperation. nm rhett o rick Jun 2013 #30

i posted a direct quote further down in the thread, its quite funny Monkie Jun 2013 #36

The face of desperation. randome Jun 2013 #40

the last refuge...is the posting of big pictures Monkie Jun 2013 #42

Apparently Hong Kong is the 'last refuge' for a certain ex-NSA contractor. randome Jun 2013 #47

What problem? That is a faux strawman to say there is a problem in the first place graham4anything Jun 2013 #76

Post removed Post removed Jun 2013 #25

I'm thinking of a mental disorder between 5 and H. Can you guess what it is? randome Jun 2013 #27

im trying to be as civil as i can, how can i say in civil words that your a lier? Monkie Jun 2013 #35

Why would anyone say that any governmental agency does not store data? randome Jun 2013 #37

well, but were you not saying snowden could not be trusted for doing what you are doing? Monkie Jun 2013 #41

My brain hurts. randome Jun 2013 #43

your own quote shows its not metadata, seriously, i dont use the word delusional lightly Monkie Jun 2013 #52

Obama can't be trusted either pscot Jun 2013 #57

I would sooner trust Obama than a guy who apparently has lied his way through life. randome Jun 2013 #59

His first 2 years he had a pat hand pscot Jun 2013 #60

I can't argue with that. randome Jun 2013 #63

And now you trust Clapper while you didnt when he worked for Boosh. It's the same damn program. nm rhett o rick Jun 2013 #67

Honestly, I wasn't even aware of Clapper before now. randome Jun 2013 #68

Clapper is a lying Republican. He was given the question ahead of time. It wasnt a surprise. rhett o rick Jun 2013 #69

Hmmmm. Why, indeed? Could it BE that Obama wouldn't be filing charges on him if he had not Th1onein Jun 2013 #73

Sounds like neither did Kenneth Ford Life Long Dem Jun 2013 #5

Both sides are painting this as a black and white... iandhr Jun 2013 #7

It always is. randome Jun 2013 #9

Some people here don't seem to get that. iandhr Jun 2013 #12

only the person you are talking to is um "economical" only a day or two ago the content storage was Monkie Jun 2013 #33

Yep. GoCubsGo Jun 2013 #44

Never heard of him until a couple of wks ago, still know squat about him, but trust him implicitly! Scurrilous Jun 2013 #18

He is not the story. Whether he is a libertarian or whatever, doesnt have anything to do with what rhett o rick Jun 2013 #22

What bubbles? Scurrilous Jun 2013 #50

You should just stop. You're making it worse for yourself. rhett o rick Jun 2013 #65

Are you ready to throw Plame and Wilson under the bus? rhett o rick Jun 2013 #78

"Snowden�s identity on the chat couldn�t be independently verified." arcane1 Jun 2013 #28

What Snowden says, goes. railsback Jun 2013 #31

An authoritarian apologist to boot! treestar Jun 2013 #51

A statement's predictability has little to do with its truthfullness bhikkhu Jun 2013 #34

good point arely staircase Jun 2013 #46

You know Snowden cannot tell a lie. eom tarheelsunc Jun 2013 #48

I guess his lying qualifies him nineteen50 Jun 2013 #49

Perhaps we need to reconsider our definition of 'the hair on fire' group. Marr Jun 2013 #56

+1. Predictable Smear. blkmusclmachine Jun 2013 #61

That Snowden says he didn't have contact with the Chinese government doesn't mean much jmowreader Jun 2013 #62

As long as he speaks publicly, he is committing a crime usGovOwesUs3Trillion Jun 2013 #70

Snowden said it, so it must be true Cali_Democrat Jun 2013 #74