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In reply to the discussion: Alan Grayson on Dems willing to cut Social Security "Members like that deserve to be Disciplined!" [View all]jtuck004
(15,882 posts)54. If you get a chance read the book "Them and Us" by James J. Matles. Obama reminds me of Gompers.
Matles experience with the Industrial Unions and how the AF of L sapped them of their power. The experience of those who sought to "change from within" by joining that larger union, written about in the book, found that impossible. It might be instructive.
Samual Gompers is a much better analogy to Obama than an ignorant putz like George Bush, if one insists on having an analogy. (I do think the few people I have heard hurl that one aren't thinking very much, or perhaps are just hurting from the seeming betrayal and the endless line of excuses). Gompers sided with business over the workers, let a lot of people get hurt that were working for worker independence by withholding resources or not asking for them, and, as the years have proved, set labour up to be decimated by the ownership class today.
Gompers was smart, but would rather sit at at a table with a rich man than a working person any day, and the writings of the era as well as the pictures provide plenty of evidence. He felt "for" them (perhaps), not "like" them (most definitely), and therein lies the difference.
Anyone that thinks they can work inside today's Democratic Party and change it should read that book and ask themselves why it would be any different this time.
It's a good book, but you will may have to find it at a university library.
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Alan Grayson on Dems willing to cut Social Security "Members like that deserve to be Disciplined!" [View all]
kpete
Jun 2013
OP
We can not "leave the party". We can fight from within and without. There are good progressive
rhett o rick
Jun 2013
#12
There are some great organizations supporting progressive candidates working outside the party
rhett o rick
Jun 2013
#30
If you get a chance read the book "Them and Us" by James J. Matles. Obama reminds me of Gompers.
jtuck004
Jun 2013
#54
Start with the ONE who is responsible for cuts to SS even being discussed.
SammyWinstonJack
Jun 2013
#33
What part of "It's NOT your money" do they not get? SS money is not to be used for any other
silvershadow
Jun 2013
#34
K&R I agree with him wholeheartedly too. No Dem who votes to cut SS will get my vote again.
forestpath
Jun 2013
#36
Who are they? There needs to be list published so that we can kick them out of Congress
sabrina 1
Jun 2013
#56