It's hate. Period.

[freshwest]

472. I worked with them in a union job. They didn't like the EEOC shaking things up with Carter.

I was listening to them for a long time, and argued when Reagan ran. They voted him in and the rest is history. They gave other reasons but as I knew them, I knew what it was when I saw it.

Carter's EEOC as forcing consent degrees in hiring. When they needed a lot of work done and the union forced them to hire more people as they were working the guys to death on overtime, the social pecking order became very clear.

They put off hiring women and minorities until they filled almost all of the positions up with white males. About 90%. Then they hired hispanics. Then black males. Next, and they hired white women, then seemingly skipped hispanic women, and the last were black women. IOW, they met the terms, but not the spirit of the CD.

Black women being last, I might add, had to have more education than any of the other groups to get the same job. That had been the case for years. Outrageous. And yet I had to listen to white males carrying on about affirmative action, quotas and the like because they believed those 'others' were qualified. It didn't fly with me.

These are what I call the invisible people. Some act like they don't exist. The way things are in politics is from the white man's view of what's important. Don't get me wrong, although I'm sure someone will pick a bone, I love white men and I'm white. There is no way I'm going to say their situation in many cases isn't as bad but it's not institutional.

I might add that management was very effective in setting white males against each other to their detriment. But once a person has been willing to sacrifice someone else on the altar of getting ahead, the die is cast. Eventually, management parceled out things until their no solidarity, and from there, they were easy to pick off and even gave up on their union. Management eventually outsourced their jobs. Cutting off one's nose to spite one's face is what it was.

In every case, blacks were last hired, first fired. Oh, and not to mention, the company manipulated the quota by hiring black women, as they counted them both black and female. Their jobs meant one less black man would be hired, or one less non-black woman. Black women have been the worst treated in this country, with black men coming in really close.

In fact the discrimination of this kind puts an insane burden on blacks as a whole. It is mindnumbingly insane. Honestly, if I was a black woman, I would be in a rage, seeing what has been done to the children, their brothers, etc. It's been crazy for too long.