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MadHound

(34,179 posts)
44. What is the proportion of illegal booze sold compared to legal booze?
Mon Feb 13, 2012, 05:56 PM
Feb 2012

Oh, yeah, minuscule. Same with tobacco. Thus, your argument falls flat before it even gets out of the gate.

Oh, and I'm not talking about just Portugal, but other European countries. Keep up your research, you might actually learn something.

Meanwhile, how is that War on Drugs going? How effective has it been? Has it stopped, or even slowed down the use of drugs in this country?

No, in fact just the opposite.

You must do your dope smoking in the comfort of a suburban, safe neighborhood. Try taking a look at how those, drug users and non-drug users, live in parts of this country that are rife with dealers. I lived in such a neighborhood. I heard the sounds of gunfire virtually every night. I had my car get caught in the crossfire of dueling crack dealers, and felt fortunate that it was only my car, not my body or the body of my wife. I now live in a rural area, relatively safe, but being in Missouri, still subject to the scourge of meth heads. I've had an AC unit stolen for the scrap metal it would bring. I've been run off the road while walking my dogs by meth freaks driving like bats out of hell. Oh, and down the road is a black patch back in the weeds, the remains of a meth lab that blew up, and whose toxins make the land uninhabitable.

That is all minor compared to people who have lost children due to drive-bys, loved ones who were in the wrong place at the wrong time. Hell, look at the violence down at the border, violence caused a drug war being raged by drug lords intent on controlling the illegal trade. Guess what, that weed you're smoking, it is a contributing factor in that violence. So while you toke up in the comfort of your own, safe home, your demand for an arbitrarily illegal drug is fueling violence that is killing innocents every single day.

Legalize drugs and virtually all that violence goes away. Virtually all that crime goes away. Kids will be safe from random bullets, citizens will be safe from robbery, and the violence on the border will be greatly reduced(no, it won't go away, because part of that violence is also being fueled by smuggling in illegal immigrants, but it will be greatly reduced).

We have tried Prohibition for decades now, and it simply hasn't worked. To continue down that path is simply madness. It is past time that we ended that madness.

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Uh.... Michael Jackson was "getting to a doctor". femmocrat Feb 2012 #1
Forget it, he's rolling. eShirl Feb 2012 #4
Yer' harshing my buzz femmocrat cbrer Feb 2012 #11
legalize them. spanone Feb 2012 #38
Cool, Tony! So you want us to be able to be prescribed crack and heroin by our doctors? (eyeroll) richmwill Feb 2012 #2
Harm Reduction is smart compared to the destructive consequences of prohibition. eShirl Feb 2012 #3
It takes 6 hours to get booked for crack....it's takes six months to get into rehab...maybe... Lochloosa Feb 2012 #5
Actually it is a very smart move. MadHound Feb 2012 #6
Thank you..I did not have the patience Lochloosa Feb 2012 #7
great post, thank you nt steve2470 Feb 2012 #8
Thanks, you nailed it. <3 Spock_is_Skeptical Feb 2012 #10
+1 legalize it flamingdem Feb 2012 #12
yep. Little Star Feb 2012 #29
Yes! Yes! Yes! Fix The Stupid Feb 2012 #30
++ Good post cbrer Feb 2012 #13
If only it were that easy FrodosPet Feb 2012 #16
I am basing my observations in reality, MadHound Feb 2012 #25
So WHAT do we legalize? FrodosPet Feb 2012 #31
We legalize everything, for reasons that I named above MadHound Feb 2012 #35
No one illegally sells legal products? FrodosPet Feb 2012 #39
What is the proportion of illegal booze sold compared to legal booze? MadHound Feb 2012 #44
After 35 years of using marijuana, roody Feb 2012 #46
Holy crap, you and me agree on something! TheWraith Feb 2012 #19
Well it does happen once in a blue moon. MadHound Feb 2012 #26
+1 Little Star Feb 2012 #28
Yeah, just like our doctors prescribe alcohol. (eyeroll) cbrer Feb 2012 #15
I would very much like for doctors to be able to prescribe heroin Fozzledick Feb 2012 #17
Actually, they do prescribe heroin, kind of. TheWraith Feb 2012 #20
I think "quotation" marks should be more "tightly" regulated Warren DeMontague Feb 2012 #21
I do! It's called "harm reduction" Taverner Feb 2012 #33
the drugs came from a doctor riverwalker Feb 2012 #9
But his heart is in the right place. nt DCKit Feb 2012 #14
So fucking what? Taverner Feb 2012 #34
Legalizing drugs would have kept Amy Winehouse alive? Ter Feb 2012 #18
The only thing that could have kept Amy Winehouse alive was Amy Winehouse. Warren DeMontague Feb 2012 #23
If the ONLY choices are full legalization and what we've got now, I'll go with full legalization. Warren DeMontague Feb 2012 #22
I was thinking that if drugs were legal people.. Little Star Feb 2012 #27
I think the best advertisement against meth is meth users themselves. But when anti-drug programs Warren DeMontague Feb 2012 #32
good topic jessicasiny Feb 2012 #24
What we should be doing is calling for stricter regulations on Big Pharma. Initech Feb 2012 #36
Is the pattern that legal products are still abused? FrodosPet Feb 2012 #40
No - I'm saying the stuff Big Pharma produces is just as dangerous. Initech Feb 2012 #42
Perhaps nationalize the pharmaceutical industry? FrodosPet Feb 2012 #43
I like Tony's singing Proud Liberal Dem Feb 2012 #37
So basically, the government can get rich from drug users instead of 'gangsters.' Dreamer Tatum Feb 2012 #41
Would a representative government be more accountable to the people than the gangsters? Uncle Joe Feb 2012 #45
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