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64. Something is being threatened
Sun Jun 23, 2013, 02:34 PM
Jun 2013

but I don't think it's security in the sense you mean. Profits at Booz Allen and the Carlyle group are definitely being threatened. The one-and -a-quarter million people with top secret security clearances may feel their job security is at risk. The entire $85 bilion national security apparatus may feel it's budget is threatened. The beaurocrats who think every American who disagrees with public policy belongs on a watch list are probably nervous as hell. I feel threatened by corporate control of the levers and uses of my government. A terrorist attack is way down near the bottom of the list of things I worry about. Goldman Sachs and the giant vampire squid are more of a threat to America than Alquaida could ever dream lof being..

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That's it! You're out! randome Jun 2013 #1
Doncha know we adore Snowdon without question flamingdem Jun 2013 #16
Like when he said he was making $200k/yr? Or that he could tap the President's phone? baldguy Jun 2013 #2
Far better to trust the NSA. Completely and uncritically. villager Jun 2013 #3
Ask Drake. Ask Binney. Ask Wiebe... Octafish Jun 2013 #46
Exactly. Spot on. peacebird Jun 2013 #76
Yep. Luminous Animal Jun 2013 #91
He's being charged with espionage. MotherPetrie Jun 2013 #4
Look at the Government's reaction. dkf Jun 2013 #5
The evident panic inside the beltway pscot Jun 2013 #6
Deep indeed... " chase him to the ends of the earth" Catherina Jun 2013 #9
Little Lindsey is beside himself pscot Jun 2013 #13
+1 nt Live and Learn Jun 2013 #11
Bingo marions ghost Jun 2013 #22
nevermind. KittyWampus Jun 2013 #29
How do you know the alleged panic is not about treestar Jun 2013 #44
You mean someone might get pissed off because we're spying on our ALLIES? Th1onein Jun 2013 #56
No I mean say some real agent getting outed and killed treestar Jun 2013 #68
WHAT can they possibly do with the information that we're all being spied on? Th1onein Jun 2013 #73
Something is being threatened pscot Jun 2013 #64
You really feel so completely at ease about Al Qaeda treestar Jun 2013 #69
You mean like radicalized Muslims? Like the Boston Bombers? Th1onein Jun 2013 #74
So then there is a threat from Muslims? treestar Jun 2013 #77
Bullshit. Th1onein Jun 2013 #89
AlQuaida is a reactionary force pscot Jun 2013 #75
We aren't making them part of the country - I don't see why there's no difference treestar Jun 2013 #78
Why not remain 13 states? What would have been so awful about that. Luminous Animal Jun 2013 #90
I wasn't around at the time treestar Jun 2013 #92
That wasn't the question. Luminous Animal Jun 2013 #93
Perhaps stopping the misdeeds and publically taking responsibility for them would help. sibelian Jun 2013 #86
It is my understanding Yemen actually wants us there "blowing up" treestar Jun 2013 #87
They could have been stopped pscot Jun 2013 #88
^^ This. n/t winter is coming Jun 2013 #82
I think it's his raw evidence that's more of the threat zazen Jun 2013 #7
If Snowden is "leaking" lies then I think his legal problems have just evaporated NoOneMan Jun 2013 #8
The only valid claim so far is he stole classified documents Whisp Jun 2013 #14
Maybe because we already knew Life Long Dem Jun 2013 #10
I just watched a wall to wall parade of old, white rich dudes on Sunday talk shows Harmony Blue Jun 2013 #12
Yep marions ghost Jun 2013 #25
Kind of like visual evidence, Progressive dog Jun 2013 #33
It is eerie how it all came together Harmony Blue Jun 2013 #39
It is that nt Progressive dog Jun 2013 #42
Easy...he would have been dismissed. They want him, and they want him bad. nt wtmusic Jun 2013 #15
that was just to get you guys all riled up. it worked. DevonRex Jun 2013 #34
Good, apparently he's got you riled up too. nt wtmusic Jun 2013 #37
I think the response is proof enough. Downwinder Jun 2013 #17
Precisely. jsr Jun 2013 #23
You mean the lack of any attempt to capture him? Recursion Jun 2013 #32
Yes, that's it! All those documents aren't real. They were created by satan to test our faith! PSPS Jun 2013 #18
Shouldn't that be up to us to decide without government interference? Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2013 #19
A jury of his peers would be nice Progressive dog Jun 2013 #40
I was referring to what he revealed and will reveal. Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2013 #45
He's not being silenced or persecuted Progressive dog Jun 2013 #53
Did you miss the indictments and attempts to extradite him? Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2013 #55
He has been charged with crimes, that is the way it works. Progressive dog Jun 2013 #60
I'm sure they would give him an open forum if he were caught. Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2013 #62
The NY Times published, Ellsburg is not in jail, Nixon resigned Progressive dog Jun 2013 #65
The Times was allowed to print by a ruling of the supreme court. Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2013 #70
Nobody has refuted the authenticity of the documents Snowden revealed jsr Jun 2013 #20
Nobody has confirmed the authenticity of the documents Snowden revealed Coyotl Jun 2013 #27
Snowden was not charged with theft of fake documents jsr Jun 2013 #38
What if he isn't lying, distorting, exaggerating? Autumn Jun 2013 #21
If he was lying, then he would be a conspiracy theorist. ZombieHorde Jun 2013 #24
Most CT's don't have papers Politicalboi Jun 2013 #31
If his "papers" weren't legitamate, then he probably wouldn't have been charged, ZombieHorde Jun 2013 #54
This has been known since a long time ago AZ Progressive Jun 2013 #26
Didn't we elect Snowden last November? Politicalboi Jun 2013 #28
We already know he lied, distorted, exaggerated. What we don't know is DevonRex Jun 2013 #30
What if our elected leadership, military, and intelligence agencies are PufPuf23 Jun 2013 #35
We know some of what he said was false. But even falsely-spun documents can have damaging facts Recursion Jun 2013 #36
You will be called an Authoritarian Apologist in 3.2.1 treestar Jun 2013 #41
Sticking one's head in the sand is not a good idea AZ Progressive Jun 2013 #49
I don't think anyone is sure, that is what has so many worried liberal N proud Jun 2013 #43
The docs speak for them self and buttress his further claims. morningfog Jun 2013 #47
He is making claims based on "documents" that he won't let you see Progressive dog Jun 2013 #48
This is not about Snowden's claims as much as it is about the people knowing and having a discussion AZ Progressive Jun 2013 #50
Those are his claims and you can't separate them Progressive dog Jun 2013 #57
We have unrefuted docs showing massive surveillance. DirkGently Jun 2013 #58
No we don't, we have evdence that the NSA kept metadata that SCOTUS had Progressive dog Jun 2013 #66
Please cite Supreme Court support DirkGently Jun 2013 #71
Here you go Progressive dog Jun 2013 #80
No one thinks that law means what the NSA is doing DirkGently Jun 2013 #84
Don't include me in your no one. Progressive dog Jun 2013 #85
The docs are real. The debate is real. That is enough. DirkGently Jun 2013 #51
Neil Cavuto, is that you? backscatter712 Jun 2013 #52
At a certain point in virtually any dialog there is such a thing as a truly stupid question. sgtbenobo Jun 2013 #59
Fine - then the government should have no problem . . . markpkessinger Jun 2013 #61
If that was so, why bring charges against him? still_one Jun 2013 #63
See, my line had already been crossed at what the Administration and Congress admit TheKentuckian Jun 2013 #67
Snowden isn't really relevant. As others said... nessa Jun 2013 #72
If he is shown to be lying, distorting and/or exaggerating - madamesilverspurs Jun 2013 #79
Panic in the avenues of power says otherwise nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #81
The NSA boss, Alexander says Snowden is accurate. former9thward Jun 2013 #83
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