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uppityperson

(116,009 posts) Sun Jun 23, 2013, 02:55 PM Jun 2013

I don't get the Snowden/phone records thing. Yes, been offline. [View all]

He released info that phone companies were giving records of calls to the NSA, right? And last yr there was a to do here because it was revealed phone companies and cell companies were giving records of calls to the NSA, right?

Or do I remember wrong here? I've been offline mostly dealing with failing family member and have missed a lot but read outrage going all sorts of ways and am confused.

A brief answer without insults is preferred, thank you.

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I don't get the Snowden/phone records thing. Yes, been offline. [View all] uppityperson Jun 2013 OP

How dare you taunt those presently suffering from the vapors over things we have known for years. Nt pkdu Jun 2013 #1

True, we have known for years. But they want to prosecute him, revoked passport, and head of NSA The Straight Story Jun 2013 #4

I agree we still classify way too much as "secret"...on the other hand , confirming US and UK were pkdu Jun 2013 #6

From what I read, he did break the law. Not judging is the law is good or not, but just that he brok uppityperson Jun 2013 #12

Ah, but there is the problem I see The Straight Story Jun 2013 #17

"He (Snowden) exposed others breaking laws" Cali_Democrat Jun 2013 #20

Well, this would be a place to start: The Straight Story Jun 2013 #25

You need to get in touch with the Supreme Court right away Ms. Toad Jun 2013 #5

I am seeking info rather than desiring to turn yet another thread into useless snark. Thank you. uppityperson Jun 2013 #10

A little too much faux-outrage by Obama-bots for my taste 99th_Monkey Jun 2013 #2

From what I've read, which isn't a lot, it seems what he revealed was already known, but again I uppityperson Jun 2013 #11

I think Snowden revealed the VAST EXTENT of spying on US citizens 99th_Monkey Jun 2013 #15

Thank you, that makes sense. nt uppityperson Jun 2013 #16

It's a lot more than that, uppityperson. Th1onein Jun 2013 #3

Breaking News: US spy agencies...spy NightWatcher Jun 2013 #8

Right, thanks, elleng Jun 2013 #32

Thank you for the information as that part I hadn't heard. I appreciate your answering and uppityperson Jun 2013 #9

That's not entirely true. jazzimov Jun 2013 #27

Nope nothing new NightWatcher Jun 2013 #7

An attempt at a balanced appraisal Recursion Jun 2013 #13

Thank you. I appreciate the appraisal and information. uppityperson Jun 2013 #14

I would add #4: The FISA court secretly ruled some of what the NSA was doing HardTimes99 Jun 2013 #18

I don't think that was him Recursion Jun 2013 #19

Ah, got you. It has all sort of blended together in my head, I'll readily grant. Also, possible #5 HardTimes99 Jun 2013 #21

Well, adding to the complexity, we don't know what came from BAH Recursion Jun 2013 #22

I think 'uppityperson' has his or her reading cut out for HardTimes99 Jun 2013 #23

I think one thing that was revealed... TeeYiYi Jun 2013 #24

No. PRISM's name was revealed previously, and it's not a spy program Recursion Jun 2013 #26

Not according to the Boston Globe... TeeYiYi Jun 2013 #28

Then the Globe needs a better reporter Recursion Jun 2013 #30

Clandestine since 2007... TeeYiYi Jun 2013 #34

First, if you haven't already, read the leaked documents jazzimov Jun 2013 #29

My take on it, if I may. scarletwoman Jun 2013 #31

Thank you for that info. argh uppityperson Jun 2013 #33

You're welcome. In my opinion, we citizens really do need to discuss these matters. scarletwoman Jun 2013 #35

Exactly! +1 TeeYiYi Jun 2013 #36

You raise very important points here suffragette Jun 2013 #37