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In reply to the discussion: I don't get the Snowden/phone records thing. Yes, been offline. [View all]Recursion
(56,582 posts)13. An attempt at a balanced appraisal
What he and the government reaction have revealed was:
1. The NSA has captured more information than it is mandated to
2. The CIA has been engaged in computer-based espionage on allied countries
3. When the NSA captures information it wasn't supposed to, in some situations it is legally allowed to keep it
3 was probably the big bombshell (though 2 is obviously irritating to our allies). The problem is he also seems to have said some stuff that is pretty clearly not true ("the NSA captures all internet traffic in real time and saves it" and "I could have read the President's email if I wanted to" and it's not always easy to parse out the real from the unreal in what he said.
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How dare you taunt those presently suffering from the vapors over things we have known for years. Nt
pkdu
Jun 2013
#1
True, we have known for years. But they want to prosecute him, revoked passport, and head of NSA
The Straight Story
Jun 2013
#4
I agree we still classify way too much as "secret"...on the other hand , confirming US and UK were
pkdu
Jun 2013
#6
From what I read, he did break the law. Not judging is the law is good or not, but just that he brok
uppityperson
Jun 2013
#12
I am seeking info rather than desiring to turn yet another thread into useless snark. Thank you.
uppityperson
Jun 2013
#10
From what I've read, which isn't a lot, it seems what he revealed was already known, but again I
uppityperson
Jun 2013
#11
Thank you for the information as that part I hadn't heard. I appreciate your answering and
uppityperson
Jun 2013
#9
I would add #4: The FISA court secretly ruled some of what the NSA was doing
HardTimes99
Jun 2013
#18
Ah, got you. It has all sort of blended together in my head, I'll readily grant. Also, possible #5
HardTimes99
Jun 2013
#21
You're welcome. In my opinion, we citizens really do need to discuss these matters.
scarletwoman
Jun 2013
#35