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ljm2002

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24. And yet in 2013...

Reply to pnwmom (Reply #22)

Sun Jun 23, 2013, 04:28 PM

Jun 2013

...two brothers could leave a couple of pressure-cooker bombs in the middle of Boston, in spite of the surveillance state we have in place and in spite of having been warned more than once by Russia about the elder of the two.

In other words, it is at least worth asking the question of whether this vast increase in surveillance is really doing the job it was supposedly implemented to do.

Then there is the fact that, at least as of 2011, the Patriot Act has been used much more extensively in the War On (some) Drugs:

http://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2011/09/12/911-chart-of-the-day/

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