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scarletwoman

(31,893 posts)
31. My take on it, if I may.
Sun Jun 23, 2013, 05:32 PM
Jun 2013

For me, one of the most important parts of Snowden's relevations is not just what they show about the extent of the NSA's surveillance, but the fact that this data collection has been placed in the hands of private contractors.

Private companies are being paid billions of taxpayer dollars and are profiting handsomely for doing NSA's dirty work. The current head of Booz Allen, the contractor who employed Snowden, is Mike McConnell, former head of the NSA. The current head of the NSA used to work for the Booz Allen. This incestuous revolving door relationship between private, for-profit corporations and government agencies basically guarantees that (a) funding for these operations will continue to grow, and (b) the War on Terror (which is the current raison d'etre for this whole surveillance apparatus) will never end, since it contributes so nicely to the private contractors' bottom line.

Aside from the scope of the surveillance itself, there's something very wrong here in regard to the whole paradigm of corporate/government entwinement. The trend is already well underway to treat activists and protestors as "terrorists" if they object to such things as environmental destruction (Fracking, Keystone Pipeline), animal cruelty (factory farms and slaughterhouses), or GMO crops (Monsanto).

It's not just the "Military Industrial Complex" that Eisenhower warned us about. It has now morphed into the Military Intelligence Complex, which cannot be anything but anathema to a "Republic of the People, by the People, and for the People." When the government can use its secret surveillance capability to treat its own people as potential threats, we are no longer living in a free democracy.

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How dare you taunt those presently suffering from the vapors over things we have known for years. Nt pkdu Jun 2013 #1
True, we have known for years. But they want to prosecute him, revoked passport, and head of NSA The Straight Story Jun 2013 #4
I agree we still classify way too much as "secret"...on the other hand , confirming US and UK were pkdu Jun 2013 #6
From what I read, he did break the law. Not judging is the law is good or not, but just that he brok uppityperson Jun 2013 #12
Ah, but there is the problem I see The Straight Story Jun 2013 #17
"He (Snowden) exposed others breaking laws" Cali_Democrat Jun 2013 #20
Well, this would be a place to start: The Straight Story Jun 2013 #25
You need to get in touch with the Supreme Court right away Ms. Toad Jun 2013 #5
I am seeking info rather than desiring to turn yet another thread into useless snark. Thank you. uppityperson Jun 2013 #10
A little too much faux-outrage by Obama-bots for my taste 99th_Monkey Jun 2013 #2
From what I've read, which isn't a lot, it seems what he revealed was already known, but again I uppityperson Jun 2013 #11
I think Snowden revealed the VAST EXTENT of spying on US citizens 99th_Monkey Jun 2013 #15
Thank you, that makes sense. nt uppityperson Jun 2013 #16
It's a lot more than that, uppityperson. Th1onein Jun 2013 #3
Breaking News: US spy agencies...spy NightWatcher Jun 2013 #8
Right, thanks, elleng Jun 2013 #32
Thank you for the information as that part I hadn't heard. I appreciate your answering and uppityperson Jun 2013 #9
That's not entirely true. jazzimov Jun 2013 #27
Nope nothing new NightWatcher Jun 2013 #7
An attempt at a balanced appraisal Recursion Jun 2013 #13
Thank you. I appreciate the appraisal and information. uppityperson Jun 2013 #14
I would add #4: The FISA court secretly ruled some of what the NSA was doing HardTimes99 Jun 2013 #18
I don't think that was him Recursion Jun 2013 #19
Ah, got you. It has all sort of blended together in my head, I'll readily grant. Also, possible #5 HardTimes99 Jun 2013 #21
Well, adding to the complexity, we don't know what came from BAH Recursion Jun 2013 #22
I think 'uppityperson' has his or her reading cut out for HardTimes99 Jun 2013 #23
I think one thing that was revealed... TeeYiYi Jun 2013 #24
No. PRISM's name was revealed previously, and it's not a spy program Recursion Jun 2013 #26
Not according to the Boston Globe... TeeYiYi Jun 2013 #28
Then the Globe needs a better reporter Recursion Jun 2013 #30
Clandestine since 2007... TeeYiYi Jun 2013 #34
First, if you haven't already, read the leaked documents jazzimov Jun 2013 #29
My take on it, if I may. scarletwoman Jun 2013 #31
Thank you for that info. argh uppityperson Jun 2013 #33
You're welcome. In my opinion, we citizens really do need to discuss these matters. scarletwoman Jun 2013 #35
Exactly! +1 TeeYiYi Jun 2013 #36
You raise very important points here suffragette Jun 2013 #37
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