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panzerfaust

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66. I stand with the constitution and a free society.

Sun Jun 23, 2013, 05:14 PM

Jun 2013

Not with a, however soft, totalitarian state.

Heck, I recall in the 50's one of the reasons we were told to hate the USSR is because they spied on *gasp* their own citizens.

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Leak probe has chilled sources, AP exec says [View all] Bonobo Jun 2013 OP

AP Editor: ProSense Jun 2013 #1

Irrelevant. Bonobo Jun 2013 #2

It's very relevant. n/t ProSense Jun 2013 #3

What an AP editor call Snowden is not relevant to the larger issue. Bonobo Jun 2013 #5

Do you think that waging this PR war against Snowden on DU has any real-world impact? NoOneMan Jun 2013 #10

No, ProSense Jun 2013 #12

Wow... 99Forever Jun 2013 #21

The entire thing is comical to me NoOneMan Jun 2013 #23

LOL! ProSense Jun 2013 #34

So you are having fun with the PR campaign against Snowden? NoOneMan Jun 2013 #38

My view hasn't changed. I support the President 100%. I don't stand with Rand. graham4anything Jun 2013 #39

This isn't isn't about your preferred dance partner NoOneMan Jun 2013 #43

I do. I stand with the Principles of Barack Obama and trust the people I HIRED with MY Vote. graham4anything Jun 2013 #46

You don't have your own principles? NoOneMan Jun 2013 #48

"I stand with the Principles of Barack Obama" also Union Scribe Jun 2013 #60

I stand with the constitution and a free society. panzerfaust Jun 2013 #66

the link about how obama was protecting whistleblowers would of been much more on topic Monkie Jun 2013 #17

A trademark of all authoritarian governments. Arctic Dave Jun 2013 #4

Guess this is the answer for the importance of Sniwden, he is a huge disappointment and Thinkingabout Jun 2013 #7

If the government has nothing to hide then what's the big deal. Arctic Dave Jun 2013 #8

Ha ha ha. Perfect! Bonobo Jun 2013 #9

They have not been hiding this, it has been known for some time. Knowing we have spies Thinkingabout Jun 2013 #11

So if it was not being hidden, what was the leak? Why the heavy hand? Bonobo Jun 2013 #16

Heavy handed, Snowden stole files from the NSA, did he hide the fact he was stealing those Thinkingabout Jun 2013 #28

Better question. Why is the government hiding the massive size of the surveillance? Bonobo Jun 2013 #35

Then what's the big deal. Arctic Dave Jun 2013 #29

Do you open your doors for everyone to come in and take what they want? Thinkingabout Jun 2013 #36

Snowden was allowed in. Arctic Dave Jun 2013 #45

He may have passed checks but do you think he was told to take what he wanted? Thinkingabout Jun 2013 #50

I think you are wanting to see things that aren't there. Arctic Dave Jun 2013 #55

What are they stealing from you, nothing. They are collecting data. He had security clearance, he Thinkingabout Jun 2013 #59

I did not give them any data nor did I ask them to store or monitor it. Arctic Dave Jun 2013 #61

When you use the services you are putting your information out. Don't want any Thinkingabout Jun 2013 #62

The fourth Amendment is being circumvented and the Constitution is being disregarded. Arctic Dave Jun 2013 #63

You must not read the Fourth Amendment as it is written. The Constitution is being followed and Thinkingabout Jun 2013 #64

So, in your mind we should just drone his silly ass nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #31

There's that freedom of the press we hear so much about n/t Catherina Jun 2013 #6

Good, they put people in danger for sake of a good story...not whistleblowing uponit7771 Jun 2013 #13

Ummm, who was put in danger? Seriously, who? nt Bonobo Jun 2013 #18

The agent in Yemen uponit7771 Jun 2013 #24

Ah, I thought you were speaking of Snowden's leak. Bonobo Jun 2013 #33

You should read up about the Yemen bomb plot leak Cali_Democrat Jun 2013 #26

I have. Bonobo Jun 2013 #37

Just because an agents name isn't revealed...it doesnt mean their cover can't be blown Cali_Democrat Jun 2013 #41

Agents getting accidentally revealed Bonobo Jun 2013 #53

Half right.... rarely a good story! whistler162 Jun 2013 #49

What was "half right" about it? nt Bonobo Jun 2013 #54

Unfortunately there has been an exceptional number of leaks the last 5 years Cali_Democrat Jun 2013 #14

All this, and labelling protesters and environmental activists "terrorists" Triana Jun 2013 #15

Free Press? Please, the US corporate media is no such thing. Lasher Jun 2013 #19

Was it from this point? Or was this just a milestone? Bonobo Jun 2013 #22

New Palestine Hotel during the take ver of Baghdad nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #51

You are starting to see is a war nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #30

The Justice Department did not chill sources...The MSM reporting about the surveillance did it. nt kelliekat44 Jun 2013 #20

Yeah, if only the reporters would stop reporting news... Bonobo Jun 2013 #25

I gotta give you props for originality nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #27

BINGO!!! you make a great point, thanks. The ones arguing AGAINST the President... graham4anything Jun 2013 #44

As always, I am heartened to see you on the other side. Bonobo Jun 2013 #56

And if only they'd kept their mouths shut, none of this would have ever happened. DeSwiss Jun 2013 #58

So, then, it had the intended effect? nt silvershadow Jun 2013 #32

Some of the responses in this thread are positively frightening...... marmar Jun 2013 #40

Yup. I will tell you the difference nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #42

All going to plan: "most transparent ever" kenny blankenship Jun 2013 #47

Imagine the outrage if this happened during the BUSH regime? MotherPetrie Jun 2013 #52

I'm sure that the Eleventy-Dimensional Chessmaster...... DeSwiss Jun 2013 #57

Well yeah, that's kind of the point. JoeyT Jun 2013 #65