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East Coast Pirate

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62. Sorry to disappoint.

Sun Jun 23, 2013, 06:15 PM

Jun 2013

HONG KONG/MOSCOW (Reuters) - Fugitive former U.S. spy agency contractor Edward Snowden is seeking asylum in Ecuador, the Quito government said on Sunday, after Hong Kong let him leave for Russia despite Washington's efforts to extradite him on espionage charges.

In a major embarrassment for the Obama administration, an aircraft thought to have been carrying Snowden landed in Moscow, and the anti-secrecy group WikiLeaks said he was "bound for the Republic of Ecuador via a safe route for the purposes of asylum."

Ecuadorean Foreign Minister Ricardo Patino, visiting Vietnam, tweeted: "The Government of Ecuador has received an asylum request from Edward J. #Snowden."

Ecuador has been sheltering WikiLeaks' founder Julian Assange at its London embassy for the past year, and Ecuador's ambassador to Russia said he expected to meet Snowden in Moscow on Sunday.

More: http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/06/23/us-usa-security-flight-idUSBRE95M02H20130623

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Ed Schultz: Snowden not a patriot, I don't trust him, I'll go with Obama and his assessment [View all] flamingdem Jun 2013 OP

I just turned the tv off nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #1

Oh Glory Be! OilemFirchen Jun 2013 #33

Ed Schulz is a great guy, and I enjoy his shows, but he is of a generation JDPriestly Jun 2013 #110

gen.disc. kardonb Jun 2013 #144

Ed and I are the same age. OilemFirchen Jun 2013 #157

Actually, I'm older, but I love the Constitution and have bothered to JDPriestly Jun 2013 #158

I don't follow. OilemFirchen Jun 2013 #160

Me too, and we built up instincts about BS from those flamingdem Jun 2013 #176

I haven't figured out how one could have lived through the sixties... OilemFirchen Jun 2013 #179

You're right, he is 59 flamingdem Jun 2013 #187

... Floyd_Gondolli Jun 2013 #155

Sorry Big Ed but I stand with Ms. Plame and Mr. Wilson. rhett o rick Jun 2013 #54

Exactly. People with the bona fides nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #59

yes riverbendviewgal Jun 2013 #111

Me too. Ed is doing Newspeak. tblue Jun 2013 #126

Me too..............nt Enthusiast Jun 2013 #206

you calling someone uninformed is like.. well... dionysus Jun 2013 #117

You just cant help yourself can you. Gotta make it personal. nm rhett o rick Jun 2013 #136

considering the source, yes. dionysus Jun 2013 #138

Exactly. She deserves it. That's always the justification. nm rhett o rick Jun 2013 #140

She may be aggravating, sometimes. Romulus Quirinus Jun 2013 #161

you've cut me to the quick i tell you... dionysus Jun 2013 #163

You seem to "turn off" a lot of people you disagree with Floyd_Gondolli Jun 2013 #152

Dammit!! Ed Shultz is now DEAD to me!!11!(one)!1!! Cali_Democrat Jun 2013 #2

Ed simply doesn't understand Snowden's heroic act! flamingdem Jun 2013 #35

Really? Cha Jun 2013 #102

What if the named countries refuse to take Snowden? That would be a shame, right?..LOL.. monmouth3 Jun 2013 #3

Now that would be something. A man without a country except instead of a ship...... wandy Jun 2013 #30

I'll write the draft right now..n/t monmouth3 Jun 2013 #36

LOL!!!!!!!!! LeftInTX Jun 2013 #86

He'd be more like Nasseri jmowreader Jun 2013 #167

Every time he switches countries he'd have to come up with a state secret to trade flamingdem Jun 2013 #177

additionally 90-percent Jun 2013 #188

I could live with the pig flamingdem Jun 2013 #191

I don't think it's a slam dunk for him to get passage via Cuba or Caracas flamingdem Jun 2013 #38

Haha, now that is irony. I think he'll be stranded, a man with no country..Good, good, good..n/t monmouth3 Jun 2013 #53

Cuba did allow Philip Agee to live there in Havana flamingdem Jun 2013 #57

Ya know, it would be like me going up against Ahnald. I may not approve or like him. But by Gawd monmouth3 Jun 2013 #63

Sorry to disappoint. East Coast Pirate Jun 2013 #62

Lemme know when he's finally accepted and settled..n/t monmouth3 Jun 2013 #72

And there's a question of how he'll go anywhere without a valid passport. pnwmom Jun 2013 #114

Can't say I'm surprised N.I.B. Jun 2013 #4

You think somebody in the government ordered Ed Shultz to say this? Cali_Democrat Jun 2013 #8

Nope N.I.B. Jun 2013 #32

Precisely TheAmbivalante Jun 2013 #192

The Mannings, Assanges and Snowdens operate on the margins flamingdem Jun 2013 #194

Oh BS flamingdem Jun 2013 #9

Thanks for the welcome flamingdem N.I.B. Jun 2013 #42

What are you used to? graham4anything Jun 2013 #68

Maybe word salad free zones? HangOnKids Jun 2013 #77

Or it could be a board where people don't post 46 times a day every day HangOnKids Jun 2013 #82

ad hominems to me are odd. graham4anything Jun 2013 #88

Ah do you and LBJ haz a sad? HangOnKids Jun 2013 #90

I have accounts on two other forums N.I.B. Jun 2013 #142

You'll be right at home here then. RC Jun 2013 #150

And of late, too many Libertarian-disguised-as-Liberal-Paulites and RW BlueCaliDem Jun 2013 #162

As I have said before: Paulbots get your own forum! flamingdem Jun 2013 #180

^^^^^^^^THIS^^^^^^^^^ pkdu Jun 2013 #182

Check out Mannygoldsteins post on Libertarians on DU flamingdem Jun 2013 #196

... Scurrilous Jun 2013 #189

Ed speaks his own mind. hrmjustin Jun 2013 #27

Oh, wait, Ed is already under the bus. NYC_SKP Jun 2013 #5

Well..true...he was "Under the Bus" for a long while on DU...then he Emerged KoKo Jun 2013 #168

Does this mean he ProSense Jun 2013 #6

Had to google on that one, are they mad at him for the Snowden comment flamingdem Jun 2013 #16

I think it means he agrees with Lindsay Graham. Hissyspit Jun 2013 #119

I agree with him that Snowden does not appear to be trustworthy, but the government should be hrmjustin Jun 2013 #7

Bravo Schultz. Tx4obama Jun 2013 #10

"criminal scumbag" Cooley Hurd Jun 2013 #14

Ellsberg did not flee the country. hrmjustin Jun 2013 #28

We saw what happened to Bradley Manning... Cooley Hurd Jun 2013 #39

Manning is not in the civilian criminal justice system jberryhill Jun 2013 #99

...nor would Snowden be. Cooley Hurd Jun 2013 #120

What is your basis for that? jberryhill Jun 2013 #129

Yes, he would. He is not military and not subject to the UCMJ. nt stevenleser Jun 2013 #130

Like Edmonds, Snowden is better at hype... Recursion Jun 2013 #71

Totally agree! nt Raine Jun 2013 #26

Nope. Big Eddie is just wrong about THIS. Cooley Hurd Jun 2013 #11

No Ed Schultz whining Cooley flamingdem Jun 2013 #19

No whining... just profound disappointment. Cooley Hurd Jun 2013 #23

Ed is right, and you'll be okay flamingdem Jun 2013 #25

Ed is NOT right, but, of course, this is a matter of opinion. Cooley Hurd Jun 2013 #49

Maybe he has an honest opinion. hrmjustin Jun 2013 #29

Of which he is afforded... Cooley Hurd Jun 2013 #43

I agree with you the goverment has gone too far and an honest discussion on it is needed. hrmjustin Jun 2013 #46

...and I don't trust the government on this. Cooley Hurd Jun 2013 #52

Yes they have a lot to lose on this. hrmjustin Jun 2013 #56

Nor yours. babylonsister Jun 2013 #89

I agree. Orly Taitz wants Snowden declared a national hero and have a day dedicated to him sad-cafe Jun 2013 #12

Dr. Orly Taitz, Esquire! Kolesar Jun 2013 #69

ha ha perfect flamingdem Jun 2013 #78

And Dick Cheney agrees that he's a traitor. JoeyT Jun 2013 #97

lol I wish I was shocked by that, but strangely enough... Number23 Jun 2013 #133

For some people, the situation is much more than just Snowden versus President Obama. ZombieHorde Jun 2013 #13

I'm not going to throw him under the bus, but I also don't have to agree with him. I can think for liberal_at_heart Jun 2013 #15

Stop that right now !! russspeakeasy Jun 2013 #40

Snowden has sold us all out. Yet his fans keep lapping at the trough. MjolnirTime Jun 2013 #17

And Putin is slurping at this point flamingdem Jun 2013 #21

yeah I'm sure he is heading for your house right now HangOnKids Jun 2013 #37

I'll bet he's tapping his Superbowl Ring on the table with great glee right about now! MADem Jun 2013 #146

LOL! I can so see Putin drooling over those laptops flamingdem Jun 2013 #174

My ? is why is Ed so certain that Snowden is lying, but Obama is telling the truth npk Jun 2013 #18

WH invites can taint one's POV... Cooley Hurd Jun 2013 #24

Ed has had plenty of criticism for President Obama in the past treestar Jun 2013 #96

Ed has said stuff I don't agree with before. Cleita Jun 2013 #20

He might be doing "Devils Advocate" ...he's got a new show and he KoKo Jun 2013 #47

"If he's a patriot he'd come home and face the music" Progressive dog Jun 2013 #22

Is that what we're calling torture this week? think Jun 2013 #34

Snowden not equal Mannng, Civilian not equal Military Progressive dog Jun 2013 #41

And whistleblowers are greeted with flowers when following the chain of command think Jun 2013 #48

What's your point, you are starting from the premise Progressive dog Jun 2013 #66

What's your point? That he should have chosen to be harrassed, threatened, & marginalized think Jun 2013 #76

No, runnng makes him not a whistle-blower, Progressive dog Jun 2013 #125

As your post CLEARLY shows it is the other NSA whistleblowers that are being ignored think Jun 2013 #139

Their shelf life expired long ago, Progressive dog Jun 2013 #147

Truly, the thawed them out flamingdem Jun 2013 #175

I disagree with Ed on this. MNBrewer Jun 2013 #31

Another good Democrat wil be thrown to the wolves by the DU leftwing police. DCBob Jun 2013 #44

He was a former Republican Harmony Blue Jun 2013 #50

so.. that doesn't disqualify anyone from becoming a "liberal".. eg. Elizabeth Warren. DCBob Jun 2013 #60

It means they have to go above and beyond to show Harmony Blue Jun 2013 #70

so Eddie hasnt passed the liberal test yet? DCBob Jun 2013 #73

I don't watch his show Harmony Blue Jun 2013 #81

Your "consistency" is probably better defined as blind allegiance to ideology. DCBob Jun 2013 #103

Yes standing on principles is better Harmony Blue Jun 2013 #122

one can still stand on prinicples and make concessions when confronted with very difficult choices. DCBob Jun 2013 #135

Did not know that. I respect Ed's take on the destruction of the USPS think Jun 2013 #65

Exactly nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #74

i take it you haven't listened to his radio show madrchsod Jun 2013 #104

Ed is good hearted, people here know he's honest flamingdem Jun 2013 #55

I never liked his show Harmony Blue Jun 2013 #61

I love Ed, especially his support of the working class in the USA flamingdem Jun 2013 #64

creepy...... babsbunny Jun 2013 #45

Ed is a fence sitting egotist! mpgalloway Jun 2013 #58

He has always been a centrist Harmony Blue Jun 2013 #67

Expecting the comments to come about Jamaal510 Jun 2013 #51

scratch a liberal, find a conservative n/t BOG PERSON Jun 2013 #75

Scratch a faux outrager, flamingdem Jun 2013 #80

I like Ed immensely and only tomg Jun 2013 #79

My Thursday group says that Obama is a great Potus flamingdem Jun 2013 #83

Post removed Post removed Jun 2013 #85

Is that supposed to be an insult? senseandsensibility Jun 2013 #101

Probably an inappropriate tomg Jun 2013 #113

African American Group? Alcoholics Anonymous? Cha Jun 2013 #107

lame BOG PERSON Jun 2013 #112

Yes, your "would that be your AA group?" was really lame. Cha Jun 2013 #127

Fair enough. We are still more tomg Jun 2013 #92

Big Ed is right, Edward Snowden is not a hero, he is a zero, crook, spy, liar, thief and coward. Thinkingabout Jun 2013 #84

I like Big Ed a lot... ljm2002 Jun 2013 #87

Whoosh! And under the bus Ed goes. BumRushDaShow Jun 2013 #91

have to agree with ed... madrchsod Jun 2013 #93

Ed - meet bus. sibelian Jun 2013 #94

I m allinthegame Jun 2013 #95

Bravo Ed! SoapBox Jun 2013 #98

I'm glad he didn't play to the Libertarian Left on this one flamingdem Jun 2013 #186

Holy shit. ForgoTheConsequence Jun 2013 #100

and turn on his radio show! madrchsod Jun 2013 #105

I don't have to throw him under the bus: I've long said he was a loud mouthed asshole. cali Jun 2013 #106

If all else fails...wave the flag. Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2013 #108

Big Ed. I understand that you work for GE, but really? JDPriestly Jun 2013 #109

Go Ed brutus smith Jun 2013 #115

I wonder if he would be saying this if we had exactly the same surveillance program expansion but Douglas Carpenter Jun 2013 #116

This was fixed from the way Bush was operating Life Long Dem Jun 2013 #165

legally or illegally - it is still a major expansion of surveillance Douglas Carpenter Jun 2013 #169

Yeah, back in 2006 Life Long Dem Jun 2013 #172

Schultz a big fan of the Espionage Act of 1917? Hissyspit Jun 2013 #118

Really ED? Pharaoh Jun 2013 #121

Another false choice.... Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2013 #123

Ed is right.. Snowden is a Coward on the run.. Cha Jun 2013 #124

I don't agree with Ed on this issue. Apophis Jun 2013 #128

I'm going to see if I can post the interview this morning on ABC Number23 Jun 2013 #131

I couldn't care less what some corporatist host has to say on this subject. Daniel537 Jun 2013 #132

I can hope for the best. I checked their websites and yes they were pro-Snowdon flamingdem Jun 2013 #183

Ed and I are in agreement. nt stevenleser Jun 2013 #134

Bad for America, and really stupid politics. Bad for the Democratic Party BlueStreak Jun 2013 #137

Ed is right! BAPhill Jun 2013 #141

But..... but...... but......!!! MADem Jun 2013 #143

Someone explain this to me. Do a lot of Libertarians spend their entire careers in Government demgrrrll Jun 2013 #145

When ED doesn't do his homework he usually allow his ex Republican bonniebgood Jun 2013 #148

And that white bronco chase didn't end very well Life Long Dem Jun 2013 #149

That was a risky bit of humor from Ed flamingdem Jun 2013 #184

yay, ed! hopemountain Jun 2013 #151

Ed was recently demoted to a weekend slot. He LibDemAlways Jun 2013 #153

Demoted? As I understood it, the move to weekends was his call. n/t cynatnite Jun 2013 #170

Not a patriot/hero. On the lam, sharing data with foreign countries, trying to avoid jail time. CakeGrrl Jun 2013 #154

He's working those laptops now for sure flamingdem Jun 2013 #185

I agree with Ed. Snowdon is not a Patriot. No Patriot gives US secrets to China, Russia, et.al. bbkenn92 Jun 2013 #156

Hey, he could have $old them for tons of money. Peregrine Took Jun 2013 #164

How do we know he didn't do just that? flamingdem Jun 2013 #178

According to the NYT article just posted here flamingdem Jun 2013 #204

Here's the article on the laptops flamingdem Jun 2013 #208

Poor Ed. He just can't figure out what is going on. Peregrine Took Jun 2013 #159

Ed is a great voice on labor but is caught in the distractions here. TheKentuckian Jun 2013 #166

I don't always agree with Ed, but I do on this. n/t cynatnite Jun 2013 #171

So you trust MSNBC's character assassination? Corruption Inc Jun 2013 #173

Ed who? eom Purveyor Jun 2013 #181

Didn't he favor the Iraq War and even torture in some cases? - nt HardTimes99 Jun 2013 #190

K & R Scurrilous Jun 2013 #193

I find all of these "look who's on my team!" posts extremely childish Union Scribe Jun 2013 #195

DU can be a bit Jr high schoolish but that flamingdem Jun 2013 #197

I didn't listen to Ed for a long time because he was too middle-of-the-road for me tpsbmam Jun 2013 #198

Well shit... 99Forever Jun 2013 #199

Some good points he had treestar Jun 2013 #200

"He should come home and present his case, then he should be hung like the traitorous rat-bastard GoneFishin Jun 2013 #201

Good for Ed Narkos Jun 2013 #202

+100 demosincebirth Jun 2013 #203

I'm usually with Ed. But this time, Big Ed is wrong. Enthusiast Jun 2013 #205

Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 2013 #207

NYT article about the Chinese getting access to Snowden's laptops flamingdem Jun 2013 #209

WikiLeaks: We Know Where Snowden Is, But We're Not Telling You - Mother Jones flamingdem Jun 2013 #210

Snowden sought Booz Allen job to gather evidence on NSA surveillance flamingdem Jun 2013 #211