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Harmony Blue

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67. He has always been a centrist

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Sun Jun 23, 2013, 05:18 PM

Jun 2013

it doesn't shock me.

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Ed Schultz: Snowden not a patriot, I don't trust him, I'll go with Obama and his assessment [View all] flamingdem Jun 2013 OP

I just turned the tv off nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #1

Oh Glory Be! OilemFirchen Jun 2013 #33

Ed Schulz is a great guy, and I enjoy his shows, but he is of a generation JDPriestly Jun 2013 #110

gen.disc. kardonb Jun 2013 #144

Ed and I are the same age. OilemFirchen Jun 2013 #157

Actually, I'm older, but I love the Constitution and have bothered to JDPriestly Jun 2013 #158

I don't follow. OilemFirchen Jun 2013 #160

Me too, and we built up instincts about BS from those flamingdem Jun 2013 #176

I haven't figured out how one could have lived through the sixties... OilemFirchen Jun 2013 #179

You're right, he is 59 flamingdem Jun 2013 #187

... Floyd_Gondolli Jun 2013 #155

Sorry Big Ed but I stand with Ms. Plame and Mr. Wilson. rhett o rick Jun 2013 #54

Exactly. People with the bona fides nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #59

yes riverbendviewgal Jun 2013 #111

Me too. Ed is doing Newspeak. tblue Jun 2013 #126

Me too..............nt Enthusiast Jun 2013 #206

you calling someone uninformed is like.. well... dionysus Jun 2013 #117

You just cant help yourself can you. Gotta make it personal. nm rhett o rick Jun 2013 #136

considering the source, yes. dionysus Jun 2013 #138

Exactly. She deserves it. That's always the justification. nm rhett o rick Jun 2013 #140

She may be aggravating, sometimes. Romulus Quirinus Jun 2013 #161

you've cut me to the quick i tell you... dionysus Jun 2013 #163

You seem to "turn off" a lot of people you disagree with Floyd_Gondolli Jun 2013 #152

Dammit!! Ed Shultz is now DEAD to me!!11!(one)!1!! Cali_Democrat Jun 2013 #2

Ed simply doesn't understand Snowden's heroic act! flamingdem Jun 2013 #35

Really? Cha Jun 2013 #102

What if the named countries refuse to take Snowden? That would be a shame, right?..LOL.. monmouth3 Jun 2013 #3

Now that would be something. A man without a country except instead of a ship...... wandy Jun 2013 #30

I'll write the draft right now..n/t monmouth3 Jun 2013 #36

LOL!!!!!!!!! LeftInTX Jun 2013 #86

He'd be more like Nasseri jmowreader Jun 2013 #167

Every time he switches countries he'd have to come up with a state secret to trade flamingdem Jun 2013 #177

additionally 90-percent Jun 2013 #188

I could live with the pig flamingdem Jun 2013 #191

I don't think it's a slam dunk for him to get passage via Cuba or Caracas flamingdem Jun 2013 #38

Haha, now that is irony. I think he'll be stranded, a man with no country..Good, good, good..n/t monmouth3 Jun 2013 #53

Cuba did allow Philip Agee to live there in Havana flamingdem Jun 2013 #57

Ya know, it would be like me going up against Ahnald. I may not approve or like him. But by Gawd monmouth3 Jun 2013 #63

Sorry to disappoint. East Coast Pirate Jun 2013 #62

Lemme know when he's finally accepted and settled..n/t monmouth3 Jun 2013 #72

And there's a question of how he'll go anywhere without a valid passport. pnwmom Jun 2013 #114

Can't say I'm surprised N.I.B. Jun 2013 #4

You think somebody in the government ordered Ed Shultz to say this? Cali_Democrat Jun 2013 #8

Nope N.I.B. Jun 2013 #32

Precisely TheAmbivalante Jun 2013 #192

The Mannings, Assanges and Snowdens operate on the margins flamingdem Jun 2013 #194

Oh BS flamingdem Jun 2013 #9

Thanks for the welcome flamingdem N.I.B. Jun 2013 #42

What are you used to? graham4anything Jun 2013 #68

Maybe word salad free zones? HangOnKids Jun 2013 #77

Or it could be a board where people don't post 46 times a day every day HangOnKids Jun 2013 #82

ad hominems to me are odd. graham4anything Jun 2013 #88

Ah do you and LBJ haz a sad? HangOnKids Jun 2013 #90

I have accounts on two other forums N.I.B. Jun 2013 #142

You'll be right at home here then. RC Jun 2013 #150

And of late, too many Libertarian-disguised-as-Liberal-Paulites and RW BlueCaliDem Jun 2013 #162

As I have said before: Paulbots get your own forum! flamingdem Jun 2013 #180

^^^^^^^^THIS^^^^^^^^^ pkdu Jun 2013 #182

Check out Mannygoldsteins post on Libertarians on DU flamingdem Jun 2013 #196

... Scurrilous Jun 2013 #189

Ed speaks his own mind. hrmjustin Jun 2013 #27

Oh, wait, Ed is already under the bus. NYC_SKP Jun 2013 #5

Well..true...he was "Under the Bus" for a long while on DU...then he Emerged KoKo Jun 2013 #168

Does this mean he ProSense Jun 2013 #6

Had to google on that one, are they mad at him for the Snowden comment flamingdem Jun 2013 #16

I think it means he agrees with Lindsay Graham. Hissyspit Jun 2013 #119

I agree with him that Snowden does not appear to be trustworthy, but the government should be hrmjustin Jun 2013 #7

Bravo Schultz. Tx4obama Jun 2013 #10

"criminal scumbag" Cooley Hurd Jun 2013 #14

Ellsberg did not flee the country. hrmjustin Jun 2013 #28

We saw what happened to Bradley Manning... Cooley Hurd Jun 2013 #39

Manning is not in the civilian criminal justice system jberryhill Jun 2013 #99

...nor would Snowden be. Cooley Hurd Jun 2013 #120

What is your basis for that? jberryhill Jun 2013 #129

Yes, he would. He is not military and not subject to the UCMJ. nt stevenleser Jun 2013 #130

Like Edmonds, Snowden is better at hype... Recursion Jun 2013 #71

Totally agree! nt Raine Jun 2013 #26

Nope. Big Eddie is just wrong about THIS. Cooley Hurd Jun 2013 #11

No Ed Schultz whining Cooley flamingdem Jun 2013 #19

No whining... just profound disappointment. Cooley Hurd Jun 2013 #23

Ed is right, and you'll be okay flamingdem Jun 2013 #25

Ed is NOT right, but, of course, this is a matter of opinion. Cooley Hurd Jun 2013 #49

Maybe he has an honest opinion. hrmjustin Jun 2013 #29

Of which he is afforded... Cooley Hurd Jun 2013 #43

I agree with you the goverment has gone too far and an honest discussion on it is needed. hrmjustin Jun 2013 #46

...and I don't trust the government on this. Cooley Hurd Jun 2013 #52

Yes they have a lot to lose on this. hrmjustin Jun 2013 #56

Nor yours. babylonsister Jun 2013 #89

I agree. Orly Taitz wants Snowden declared a national hero and have a day dedicated to him sad-cafe Jun 2013 #12

Dr. Orly Taitz, Esquire! Kolesar Jun 2013 #69

ha ha perfect flamingdem Jun 2013 #78

And Dick Cheney agrees that he's a traitor. JoeyT Jun 2013 #97

lol I wish I was shocked by that, but strangely enough... Number23 Jun 2013 #133

For some people, the situation is much more than just Snowden versus President Obama. ZombieHorde Jun 2013 #13

I'm not going to throw him under the bus, but I also don't have to agree with him. I can think for liberal_at_heart Jun 2013 #15

Stop that right now !! russspeakeasy Jun 2013 #40

Snowden has sold us all out. Yet his fans keep lapping at the trough. MjolnirTime Jun 2013 #17

And Putin is slurping at this point flamingdem Jun 2013 #21

yeah I'm sure he is heading for your house right now HangOnKids Jun 2013 #37

I'll bet he's tapping his Superbowl Ring on the table with great glee right about now! MADem Jun 2013 #146

LOL! I can so see Putin drooling over those laptops flamingdem Jun 2013 #174

My ? is why is Ed so certain that Snowden is lying, but Obama is telling the truth npk Jun 2013 #18

WH invites can taint one's POV... Cooley Hurd Jun 2013 #24

Ed has had plenty of criticism for President Obama in the past treestar Jun 2013 #96

Ed has said stuff I don't agree with before. Cleita Jun 2013 #20

He might be doing "Devils Advocate" ...he's got a new show and he KoKo Jun 2013 #47

"If he's a patriot he'd come home and face the music" Progressive dog Jun 2013 #22

Is that what we're calling torture this week? think Jun 2013 #34

Snowden not equal Mannng, Civilian not equal Military Progressive dog Jun 2013 #41

And whistleblowers are greeted with flowers when following the chain of command think Jun 2013 #48

What's your point, you are starting from the premise Progressive dog Jun 2013 #66

What's your point? That he should have chosen to be harrassed, threatened, & marginalized think Jun 2013 #76

No, runnng makes him not a whistle-blower, Progressive dog Jun 2013 #125

As your post CLEARLY shows it is the other NSA whistleblowers that are being ignored think Jun 2013 #139

Their shelf life expired long ago, Progressive dog Jun 2013 #147

Truly, the thawed them out flamingdem Jun 2013 #175

I disagree with Ed on this. MNBrewer Jun 2013 #31

Another good Democrat wil be thrown to the wolves by the DU leftwing police. DCBob Jun 2013 #44

He was a former Republican Harmony Blue Jun 2013 #50

so.. that doesn't disqualify anyone from becoming a "liberal".. eg. Elizabeth Warren. DCBob Jun 2013 #60

It means they have to go above and beyond to show Harmony Blue Jun 2013 #70

so Eddie hasnt passed the liberal test yet? DCBob Jun 2013 #73

I don't watch his show Harmony Blue Jun 2013 #81

Your "consistency" is probably better defined as blind allegiance to ideology. DCBob Jun 2013 #103

Yes standing on principles is better Harmony Blue Jun 2013 #122

one can still stand on prinicples and make concessions when confronted with very difficult choices. DCBob Jun 2013 #135

Did not know that. I respect Ed's take on the destruction of the USPS think Jun 2013 #65

Exactly nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #74

i take it you haven't listened to his radio show madrchsod Jun 2013 #104

Ed is good hearted, people here know he's honest flamingdem Jun 2013 #55

I never liked his show Harmony Blue Jun 2013 #61

I love Ed, especially his support of the working class in the USA flamingdem Jun 2013 #64

creepy...... babsbunny Jun 2013 #45

Ed is a fence sitting egotist! mpgalloway Jun 2013 #58

He has always been a centrist Harmony Blue Jun 2013 #67

Expecting the comments to come about Jamaal510 Jun 2013 #51

scratch a liberal, find a conservative n/t BOG PERSON Jun 2013 #75

Scratch a faux outrager, flamingdem Jun 2013 #80

I like Ed immensely and only tomg Jun 2013 #79

My Thursday group says that Obama is a great Potus flamingdem Jun 2013 #83

Post removed Post removed Jun 2013 #85

Is that supposed to be an insult? senseandsensibility Jun 2013 #101

Probably an inappropriate tomg Jun 2013 #113

African American Group? Alcoholics Anonymous? Cha Jun 2013 #107

lame BOG PERSON Jun 2013 #112

Yes, your "would that be your AA group?" was really lame. Cha Jun 2013 #127

Fair enough. We are still more tomg Jun 2013 #92

Big Ed is right, Edward Snowden is not a hero, he is a zero, crook, spy, liar, thief and coward. Thinkingabout Jun 2013 #84

I like Big Ed a lot... ljm2002 Jun 2013 #87

Whoosh! And under the bus Ed goes. BumRushDaShow Jun 2013 #91

have to agree with ed... madrchsod Jun 2013 #93

Ed - meet bus. sibelian Jun 2013 #94

I m allinthegame Jun 2013 #95

Bravo Ed! SoapBox Jun 2013 #98

I'm glad he didn't play to the Libertarian Left on this one flamingdem Jun 2013 #186

Holy shit. ForgoTheConsequence Jun 2013 #100

and turn on his radio show! madrchsod Jun 2013 #105

I don't have to throw him under the bus: I've long said he was a loud mouthed asshole. cali Jun 2013 #106

If all else fails...wave the flag. Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2013 #108

Big Ed. I understand that you work for GE, but really? JDPriestly Jun 2013 #109

Go Ed brutus smith Jun 2013 #115

I wonder if he would be saying this if we had exactly the same surveillance program expansion but Douglas Carpenter Jun 2013 #116

This was fixed from the way Bush was operating Life Long Dem Jun 2013 #165

legally or illegally - it is still a major expansion of surveillance Douglas Carpenter Jun 2013 #169

Yeah, back in 2006 Life Long Dem Jun 2013 #172

Schultz a big fan of the Espionage Act of 1917? Hissyspit Jun 2013 #118

Really ED? Pharaoh Jun 2013 #121

Another false choice.... Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2013 #123

Ed is right.. Snowden is a Coward on the run.. Cha Jun 2013 #124

I don't agree with Ed on this issue. Apophis Jun 2013 #128

I'm going to see if I can post the interview this morning on ABC Number23 Jun 2013 #131

I couldn't care less what some corporatist host has to say on this subject. Daniel537 Jun 2013 #132

I can hope for the best. I checked their websites and yes they were pro-Snowdon flamingdem Jun 2013 #183

Ed and I are in agreement. nt stevenleser Jun 2013 #134

Bad for America, and really stupid politics. Bad for the Democratic Party BlueStreak Jun 2013 #137

Ed is right! BAPhill Jun 2013 #141

But..... but...... but......!!! MADem Jun 2013 #143

Someone explain this to me. Do a lot of Libertarians spend their entire careers in Government demgrrrll Jun 2013 #145

When ED doesn't do his homework he usually allow his ex Republican bonniebgood Jun 2013 #148

And that white bronco chase didn't end very well Life Long Dem Jun 2013 #149

That was a risky bit of humor from Ed flamingdem Jun 2013 #184

yay, ed! hopemountain Jun 2013 #151

Ed was recently demoted to a weekend slot. He LibDemAlways Jun 2013 #153

Demoted? As I understood it, the move to weekends was his call. n/t cynatnite Jun 2013 #170

Not a patriot/hero. On the lam, sharing data with foreign countries, trying to avoid jail time. CakeGrrl Jun 2013 #154

He's working those laptops now for sure flamingdem Jun 2013 #185

I agree with Ed. Snowdon is not a Patriot. No Patriot gives US secrets to China, Russia, et.al. bbkenn92 Jun 2013 #156

Hey, he could have $old them for tons of money. Peregrine Took Jun 2013 #164

How do we know he didn't do just that? flamingdem Jun 2013 #178

According to the NYT article just posted here flamingdem Jun 2013 #204

Here's the article on the laptops flamingdem Jun 2013 #208

Poor Ed. He just can't figure out what is going on. Peregrine Took Jun 2013 #159

Ed is a great voice on labor but is caught in the distractions here. TheKentuckian Jun 2013 #166

I don't always agree with Ed, but I do on this. n/t cynatnite Jun 2013 #171

So you trust MSNBC's character assassination? Corruption Inc Jun 2013 #173

Ed who? eom Purveyor Jun 2013 #181

Didn't he favor the Iraq War and even torture in some cases? - nt HardTimes99 Jun 2013 #190

K & R Scurrilous Jun 2013 #193

I find all of these "look who's on my team!" posts extremely childish Union Scribe Jun 2013 #195

DU can be a bit Jr high schoolish but that flamingdem Jun 2013 #197

I didn't listen to Ed for a long time because he was too middle-of-the-road for me tpsbmam Jun 2013 #198

Well shit... 99Forever Jun 2013 #199

Some good points he had treestar Jun 2013 #200

"He should come home and present his case, then he should be hung like the traitorous rat-bastard GoneFishin Jun 2013 #201

Good for Ed Narkos Jun 2013 #202

+100 demosincebirth Jun 2013 #203

I'm usually with Ed. But this time, Big Ed is wrong. Enthusiast Jun 2013 #205

Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 2013 #207

NYT article about the Chinese getting access to Snowden's laptops flamingdem Jun 2013 #209

WikiLeaks: We Know Where Snowden Is, But We're Not Telling You - Mother Jones flamingdem Jun 2013 #210

Snowden sought Booz Allen job to gather evidence on NSA surveillance flamingdem Jun 2013 #211