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7. Well, men are directly involved

Mon Feb 13, 2012, 07:53 PM

Feb 2012

If a woman gets pregnant and chooses to keep the child the man is on the hook for 18 years of child support - at the point a woman makes her choice (to keep a child) the man no longer has any choice.

Both he and she had a choice prior to conception (whether or not to have sex) but after sex only one person has a choice that affects two lives.

That said, fuck all of those idiots and if they really cared about things they would make sure people had easy access to birth control.

It's not rocket science - you can reduce abortions, etc, easily by providing people with birth control, but the only control they care about is over the bodies (and choices) of other people.

Your body, your choice (for this and other things - be careful though, believing in it for things other than abortion/birth control might get you labeled a libertarian).

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I find it very telling that those speaking out about "contreception" are all males [View all] demtenjeep Feb 2012 OP

women ought to be speaking out demtenjeep Feb 2012 #1

They are men. How women choose to regulate their fertility is none of their damned kestrel91316 Feb 2012 #2

I been saying that for decades now. dixiegrrrrl Feb 2012 #3

male ob-gyns Quantess Feb 2012 #6

Oh, dear, really? Male ob-gyns are inherently creepy or have issues with women? Zalatix Feb 2012 #9

We don't need "evidence" above and beyond our own personal kestrel91316 Feb 2012 #22

You don't need evidence for "Male ob-gyns are inherently creepy"? Zalatix Feb 2012 #23

So what? I shared my opinion. Quantess Feb 2012 #25

Yes and there are also those who see Muslims or Jews and have misgivings. Zalatix Feb 2012 #37

No, you're just wildly overreacting to my post. Quantess Feb 2012 #39

I don't think it's an overreaction at all. EOTE Feb 2012 #40

I would wonder the same about female doctors who choose to specialize in urology, for example. Quantess Feb 2012 #43

Christ, it's a job that pays well! EOTE Feb 2012 #47

Thank you. I thought I was all alone in seeing that. Zalatix Feb 2012 #45

When was your last pap smear? justiceischeap Feb 2012 #29

I've had the same thoughts. I go to an all female Liquorice Feb 2012 #26

Wow. HappyMe Feb 2012 #28

It's different with women urologists. Zalatix Feb 2012 #34

*sigh!* HappyMe Feb 2012 #35

No it isn't! Aren't you at all curious why a female urologist would choose that particular field? Quantess Feb 2012 #38

No. No, I'm not. HappyMe Feb 2012 #42

No. Wait, I take that back. Not just no, but HELL no. Zalatix Feb 2012 #46

I said "I find it slightly creepy". Notice I did not call anyone a creep. Quantess Feb 2012 #36

I've been to both men and women Aerows Feb 2012 #48

Maybe the man truly loves women and wants to help them MicaelS Feb 2012 #49

if they were the ones that had to prevent pregnancy, they would be all over this demtenjeep Feb 2012 #4

I've never, ever understood how they can cover Viagra and penis pumps, too. Zalatix Feb 2012 #24

+1000 Liberal_in_LA Feb 2012 #5

Well, men are directly involved The Straight Story Feb 2012 #7

"Well, men are directly involved" justiceischeap Feb 2012 #30

I have shared this concept with all of my sons. w8liftinglady Feb 2012 #33

What continually amazes me is that there are women Republicans. dimbear Feb 2012 #8

good question demtenjeep Feb 2012 #10

Damned if I know! Bigmack Feb 2012 #11

a woman voting Republican is like a chicken voting for Colonel Sanders. Terra Alta Feb 2012 #14

I think quite a number are breaking ranks on this one. Sparkly Feb 2012 #15

If men got pregnant, there would be drive-thru abortion clinics. JBoy Feb 2012 #12

Conservative Republican men like to control women Terra Alta Feb 2012 #13

I had to worry about contraception... Iggo Feb 2012 #16

Yup, but those of us with rational concerns in the area damn sure want women to have this access TheKentuckian Feb 2012 #18

Hackneyed. Old Hat. Heard. Not again.... but here it is: Mira Feb 2012 #17

Same with birth control, marriage, etc... Sparkly Feb 2012 #19

they long for the puritan days demtenjeep Feb 2012 #20

The Puritans were more matter-of-fact practical about things. Sparkly Feb 2012 #21

And if you're against contraception, just don't use it. Nye Bevan Feb 2012 #32

Yea, they have kids, and they can do like their buddy Rep Joe Walsh did...book a tsuki Feb 2012 #27

Not true, Palin, Coulter and Bachmann have all weighed in. Nye Bevan Feb 2012 #31

What the heck are you talking about?? RockaFowler Feb 2012 #41

Condoms protect against STDs as well as pregnancy. Nye Bevan Feb 2012 #51

Further justification for my theory that those who can't get laid take it out on those who can. Initech Feb 2012 #44

Plenty of conservative women are just as bad. Jennicut Feb 2012 #50

Bishops: birth control bad; Viagra good pokerfan Feb 2012 #52