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Tumbulu

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Sun Jun 23, 2013, 07:41 PM

Jun 2013

What fun to look at the costumes.

But I stand by my belief that as parents and as elders we must protect children from predators and no matter how many times you or others may claim that the clothing on the child SHOULD make no difference it does. The many yards of fabric that make up a burka are not necessary. What we need to educate children and the fashion industry and performers who popularize these clothes that objectify is that clothing that sexualizes a child puts that child at greater risk as it is a non verbal communication. And that communication which an adult woman may chose to play with, is absolutely not appropriate to ask a child to navigate.

Any ridiculous idea that sexualizes clothing is not sending a message is that. Clothing is a construct of human hands and imagination and you better believe it sends messages both conscious and unconscious.

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Old Men---Please don't do this. [View all] trumad Jun 2013 OP

"Kind of". Damn, you're polite. Scuba Jun 2013 #1

Good advice to creepy old men. morningfog Jun 2013 #2

And they need to quit trying to pick up people young enough to be their children FrodosPet Jun 2013 #62

This was a topic on a radio show recently... Phentex Jun 2013 #64

If ever I'm tempted to flirt with a younger female, it always helps Flatulo Jun 2013 #114

A dozen years younger at 45, not too bad. Over fifteen or twenty years younger? maddiemom Jun 2013 #188

That's a tough double-standard to break. Indeed, there's even a not-so-flattering name for Flatulo Jun 2013 #215

I much enjoyed your reply. maddiemom Jun 2013 #244

I can't speak to your ex's motives, but I think many men enjoy the chase above all else. Flatulo Jun 2013 #259

~LOL to your last sentence! CrispyQ Jun 2013 #251

I remember that exact episode! When the old guy picked her up, he said something like... Flatulo Jun 2013 #257

I loved that show! CrispyQ Jun 2013 #260

Yeah, he was a handsome old gent, and perhaps they even used a stunt ass, but the point Flatulo Jun 2013 #262

I am 52 and in failing health. dotymed Jun 2013 #250

Funny you should mention that... I retired a few years ago with a bad back. I walk with a Flatulo Jun 2013 #258

Seriously man.... Johnny Noshoes Jun 2013 #115

I actually own a t-shirt older than the woman to whom I'm engaged. Codeine Jun 2013 #210

nt. Johnny Noshoes Jun 2013 #239

"Hell I've a clock radio that's over 30 years old." CrispyQ Jun 2013 #252

HAHA, it is they that do the hitting on, my dear! grahamhgreen Jun 2013 #128

I'm married to a man 20 years older than me. Neoma Jun 2013 #185

Hope he wasn't married at the time. Otherwise,good for you. maddiemom Jun 2013 #190

He's only been married to one woman, me! Neoma Jun 2013 #192

Not at all insulting. Just askin.' You're taking too personal offense maddiemom Jun 2013 #195

Think of how many times I've heard, "robbed the cradle." Neoma Jun 2013 #196

I think we were thinking in two different directions. Continued happiness to the two of you. maddiemom Jun 2013 #197

Thank you. Neoma Jun 2013 #198

Yup. Texasgal Jun 2013 #226

HA! My fiancee is twenty years younger than I am, and she doesn't seem disgusted by me at all. Codeine Jun 2013 #209

YMMV FrodosPet Jun 2013 #211

I don't see how some old codger looking at a young woman is close to rape Chemisse Jun 2013 #219

When one person finds the attention of another person to be scary Arkansas Granny Jun 2013 #242

It's kind of established that there is a limited expectation Flatulo Jun 2013 #264

If they were disgusted they would never respond. former9thward Jun 2013 #223

I'm lesbian and 33 today. Perfectly ok with a man 10 years either way hitting on me, but MillennialDem Jun 2013 #263

I think it's possible that what you may take as a 'response' to flirting is actually a reluctance to Flatulo Jun 2013 #268

How is that any more your business than fashion? RetroLounge Jun 2013 #229

Excuse me! Springslips Jun 2013 #245

MineralMan is not a creepy old man. Buzz Clik Jun 2013 #131

The only benefit to being old is Curmudgeonly Cantankerousness. Agnosticsherbet Jun 2013 #3

OMG! redqueen Jun 2013 #4

Thanks for referring to my thread. Here's a link to it: MineralMan Jun 2013 #5

Okay - giving Trumad JustAnotherGen Jun 2013 #28

I didn't make a reply to your original thread, but I have to agree with you on this one. Arkansas Granny Jun 2013 #44

I'm going to give you the same suggestion I gave MM in his thread. redqueen Jun 2013 #58

I didn't watch the movie, I'm not into that stuff, but I did watch the trailer. A Simple Game Jun 2013 #164

Young girls who use words like "slutty" can be excused due to ignorance. redqueen Jun 2013 #168

You pimp it but don't watch it? It's only about 2 minutes long. A Simple Game Jun 2013 #200

"Pimp", huh. Yeah, I see. redqueen Jun 2013 #204

Refusal to answer what question? As far as I can see you only asked two. A Simple Game Jun 2013 #207

You are seeing the trailer for that documentary as akin to triple x films? Okie dokie, then. Squinch Jun 2013 #265

I am seeing that trailer as akin to how pornographic films got their mainstream start, yes. A Simple Game Jun 2013 #266

Well, gosh. How odd of you. Squinch Jun 2013 #269

I must admit to being confused by some people's mixed signals on this issue. Bonobo Jun 2013 #228

From the trailer: CrispyQ Jun 2013 #255

Agreed. NaturalHigh Jun 2013 #214

For the record, I saw nothing wrong with your original thread and comments. kestrel91316 Jun 2013 #45

I completely agreed with you and leftynyc Jun 2013 #104

Even when I was a kid, I wasn't turned on by 12 year olds. MineralMan Jun 2013 #129

They called my mom into leftynyc Jun 2013 #180

Well, that is just pervy... MineralMan Jun 2013 #199

Mom was pissed.... leftynyc Jun 2013 #205

I didn't see anything wrong with your thread either. hamsterjill Jun 2013 #125

Thanks. I suppose it has to do with something other than MineralMan Jun 2013 #126

I agree on both counts. denverbill Jun 2013 #137

Me too calikid Jun 2013 #213

I second that. NaturalHigh Jun 2013 #232

BAD MineralMan! BAD! BAD! BAD! Buzz Clik Jun 2013 #133

Like water off a duck's back it flows. MineralMan Jun 2013 #147

Well, I've got a couple things to say about that: Buzz Clik Jun 2013 #151

Thanks, Buzz. I knew that. MineralMan Jun 2013 #155

That is the only way for "old guys" to survive around here. lumberjack_jeff Jun 2013 #157

"That someone who doesn't know me implies that I am one of those is irrelevant to me." morningfog Jun 2013 #203

Although I have to admit to feeling a bit puzzled BainsBane Jun 2013 #162

I thought it was about that TSA agent........... KentuckyWoman Jun 2013 #238

thank you quinnox Jun 2013 #6

Yep. I stayed out of MM's Aqualung thread. Hassin Bin Sober Jun 2013 #256

heh Sheldon Cooper Jun 2013 #7

You know what is kind of creepy trumad? snooper2 Jun 2013 #8

Post removed Post removed Jun 2013 #16

What do find objectionable about that? leftstreet Jun 2013 #17

Are those bathing suits? RILib Jun 2013 #19

They look like bathing suits to me Phentex Jun 2013 #66

They are LadyHawkAZ Jun 2013 #79

They are, but it's the rest of the outfit Warpy Jun 2013 #119

I'm having a disconnect RILib Jun 2013 #142

a posh pool party in Burbank... Phentex Jun 2013 #202

hmm, where did you find that photo? CTyankee Jun 2013 #20

google pictures snooper2 Jun 2013 #53

Okay, better. Rex Jun 2013 #100

Not all day, been on a conference call for 2.5 hours already snooper2 Jun 2013 #103

Ugh. That is way too long Rex Jun 2013 #108

. Rex Jun 2013 #98

The one on the left skydive forever Jun 2013 #22

No, you are not allowed ... brett_jv Jun 2013 #206

Seriously. The shiny purse is too much, as is the HUGH Headpiece on the right one, not to mention uppityperson Jun 2013 #71

To say nothing of the bichon frise! Scootaloo Jun 2013 #96

THAT'S MILEY CYRUS' little sister promoting bathing suits... Phentex Jun 2013 #82

There is desperation and then there is Devils Advocate. Rex Jun 2013 #94

They are swimming suits! Rex Jun 2013 #90

Cute dog. They both could use a trip to the orthodontist TrogL Jun 2013 #140

Ye Gods... derby378 Jun 2013 #161

And... OP's point proven. Hissyspit Jun 2013 #176

...and let them play with this... L0oniX Jun 2013 #253

Why can't people just mind their own BainsBane Jun 2013 #271

Whatever age and gender you are -- please don't do this jollyreaper2112 Jun 2013 #9

Hey you kids... RoccoR5955 Jun 2013 #10

And pass the butter! Initech Jun 2013 #25

Damn Recursion Jun 2013 #11

I'm trying to understand MrYikes Jun 2013 #12

+1 nt narnian60 Jun 2013 #21

how is what young people wear part of the screwed up mess that we're in? liberal_at_heart Jun 2013 #26

I not really supposed to comment, but MrYikes Jun 2013 #34

WHAT THE FUCK redqueen Jun 2013 #39

Getting raped was the women's fault for covering their breasts. Seriously, wtf uppityperson Jun 2013 #78

I don't think that was their point ... brett_jv Jun 2013 #208

Now I've seen it all here JustAnotherGen Jun 2013 #217

You are entitled to your opinion. I even think you are entitled to express your opinion, but I liberal_at_heart Jun 2013 #42

So, another 'men can't control themselves' comment. ismnotwasm Jun 2013 #43

ummm, that's MR Yikes to you. MrYikes Jun 2013 #50

If a man rapes a woman, then it is the man's fault, not the woman's. Period. Stop. 1monster Jun 2013 #47

"Rape increased quickly. It would be very easy to blame the men ... but ..." fishwax Jun 2013 #63

Yeah, actually maybe you SHOULD keep quiet Matariki Jun 2013 #67

... Sheldon Cooper Jun 2013 #92

"something else at work"? Men raped women because women covered their breasts? Wtf.nt uppityperson Jun 2013 #77

no they raped them because they started wearing push up bras apparently. Because no one in Africa liberal_at_heart Jun 2013 #85

That is a pants load of garbage. Rex Jun 2013 #106

That's a post-Panamax tankerload of garbage, not just a pantsload. Gah. (nt) Posteritatis Jun 2013 #175

Well it's legal to go topless in NYC so we will see how that works out. L0oniX Jun 2013 #254

+1 redqueen Jun 2013 #37

The ubiquitous voice of the authoritarian. Some of us have never listened to it, Egalitarian Thug Jun 2013 #32

+10 RC Jun 2013 #36

Was he a perv for noticing or just for commenting on it? tularetom Jun 2013 #13

Especially... madinmaryland Jun 2013 #14

. Guy Whitey Corngood Jun 2013 #15

Creepy indeed. The Link Jun 2013 #18

One does not need to sexualize children in order to see this society RadiationTherapy Jun 2013 #23

Black shoes and black sox SCVDem Jun 2013 #24

What's worse than that: riqster Jun 2013 #38

Nope, sandals with black dress socks dangling from sock suspenders Fumesucker Jun 2013 #75

Hey! Now you're getting personal jberryhill Jun 2013 #109

... tosh Jun 2013 #56

I don't have another pair of legs.. Half-Century Man Jun 2013 #224

But it's ok for young men to do it? cliffordu Jun 2013 #27

I thought you were going to say JustAnotherGen Jun 2013 #29

Some date back to this... Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2013 #30

I find 1920s fashion very sexy Recursion Jun 2013 #35

totally with you Recursion. Erotic art leaves room for the imagination. Porn gives you everything KittyWampus Jun 2013 #49

Thank you! totally agree Recursion Jun 2013 #55

I think both old and new styles can be sexy. There is nothing wrong with showing skin. There is liberal_at_heart Jun 2013 #54

Interesting POV. Doc Holliday Jun 2013 #139

I feel nothing says "tough guy" like a crotch around the knees.... Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2013 #171

Swimwear is already plural. RILib Jun 2013 #144

Unless is is meant to be worn during multiple swim sessions, in which case it is swimswears. lumberjack_jeff Jun 2013 #152

I'm gonna do the "drink, drank, drunk" thing next for sport. Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2013 #170

I sense some ageism in your comment. totodeinhere Jun 2013 #31

Specific to another post. Egalitarian Thug Jun 2013 #33

Thank you. I wasn't aware of that other thread. Perhaps the OP should have linked to totodeinhere Jun 2013 #41

Can't. We're all subject to the jury lotto. n/t Egalitarian Thug Jun 2013 #46

well, i am not a male, i am not elderly either, but i was in a kohl's recently by the juniors pansypoo53219 Jun 2013 #40

while it doesn't rank all that high on my give-a-fuck-o-meter, it is a fact dionysus Jun 2013 #48

^^^^THIS^^^^ cliffordu Jun 2013 #76

Rec this post. ^^^ nt Ilsa Jun 2013 #110

Does it "take a village to raise a child" or is that only a village of moms? lumberjack_jeff Jun 2013 #51

Only a village of young moms. enlightenment Jun 2013 #70

Especially older lesbians. Because that would be "creepy". Schema Thing Jun 2013 #120

It is up to the parents, so you can tell your kids how to dress. You cannot tell my kids how to liberal_at_heart Jun 2013 #80

Indeed I can't. But I can tell you as a parent when you're fucking up. n/t lumberjack_jeff Jun 2013 #143

and I can not give a shit, so we're both happy. liberal_at_heart Jun 2013 #225

you can say Trashy, though, although I would not recommend saying it out loud. RILib Jun 2013 #146

I'm an Old Man. H2O Man Jun 2013 #52

You sound like you have a great relationship with your daughters. liberal_at_heart Jun 2013 #57

However, advice about giving advice is always welcomed, and is indeed, your "fucking business" LanternWaste Jun 2013 #59

+1 and the really ironic thing in all this -trumad is not so young his own self Tuesday Afternoon Jun 2013 #145

Young people, please don't try to manipulate and control old people.. Wounded Bear Jun 2013 #60

Old men get to say whatever they want. FarCenter Jun 2013 #61

OMG YOU STOLE MY DAMNED POST La Lioness Priyanka Jun 2013 #65

... Phentex Jun 2013 #83

K&R uppityperson Jun 2013 #68

Really? Pelican Jun 2013 #69

you can judge all you want. Fortunately we live in America. Our girls and women can wear what liberal_at_heart Jun 2013 #73

There is a difference between can and should... Pelican Jun 2013 #88

I don't care what you think people should do. liberal_at_heart Jun 2013 #99

Good for you... Pelican Jun 2013 #105

That's an illusion of control. Nt galileoreloaded Jun 2013 #273

Even in America, childrens clothing is a reflection on the parenting he or she gets. n/t lumberjack_jeff Jun 2013 #154

Did you know that many prostitutes dress quite conseratively and look just like other people going uppityperson Jun 2013 #86

I'm not sure how to put this other than... Pelican Jun 2013 #91

It all depends on their marketing approach. FarCenter Jun 2013 #93

Glad to see it. Savannahmann Jun 2013 #72

Trumad, Your headline made me think you were going to post a pic of an old man in a Speedo.... Demoiselle Jun 2013 #74

This?? madinmaryland Jun 2013 #87

my eyes, my eyes. RILib Jun 2013 #150

Yes. And now I shall go and flush my eyes out with a hose for an hour or so. EEEwwwwwwwww! Demoiselle Jun 2013 #159

Stop posting this photo!!! Auggie Jun 2013 #173

I'm sorry I posted a picture of you.. madinmaryland Jun 2013 #183

That thing isn't human Auggie Jun 2013 #187

You have GOT to be kidding! radicalliberal Jun 2013 #184

Must forget image of... Half-Century Man Jun 2013 #220

I expected this shot in the flag at half mast whistler162 Jun 2013 #267

ROTFLMAO Autumn Jun 2013 #81

... LadyHawkAZ Jun 2013 #84

That is kinda creepy, now that I think about it. Rex Jun 2013 #89

I saw that... awoke_in_2003 Jun 2013 #95

I won't do that sarisataka Jun 2013 #97

now that is a healthy attitude towards one own daughter. I completely agree that it is our job as liberal_at_heart Jun 2013 #101

As much as I try to deny it sarisataka Jun 2013 #166

BAM! Sissyk Jun 2013 #117

There is obviously timdog44 Jun 2013 #102

Oh come on! Javaman Jun 2013 #107

Yeah, old men should just shut up. Ilsa Jun 2013 #111

I like being an old fart. I don't miss the mating games. Video below alfredo Jun 2013 #112

I have identified a "creepy old man" for you Savannahmann Jun 2013 #113

Hey, if they want to make a dirty old man's day, who am I to talk? TrogL Jun 2013 #116

You know what I find creepy? LittleBlue Jun 2013 #118

Can we add the dads in there too? DeadLetterOffice Jun 2013 #212

Yes LittleBlue Jun 2013 #218

I think making reference to attire that one saw in a public place on an bike man Jun 2013 #121

If there wasn't a post expressing rage in response to another post Puzzledtraveller Jun 2013 #127

... AzDar Jun 2013 #122

Hell to the yeah bigwillq Jun 2013 #123

LOL - Here's my advice - grahamhgreen Jun 2013 #124

Why the fuck are they all standing on their toes? MadrasT Jun 2013 #135

Because of the way it looks. redqueen Jun 2013 #148

Essentially, to attract men. They think it makes their calves look more toned, hence high heels, etc grahamhgreen Jun 2013 #149

The theory is RILib Jun 2013 #153

If this isn't CGI.. Half-Century Man Jun 2013 #222

As long as there's airbrushing, anyway. RedCappedBandit Jun 2013 #241

Actually, people are free to express their opinions about everything. Buzz Clik Jun 2013 #130

Would it be OK to say something if a parent allowed a 12 yr old to go nude in public? Major Nikon Jun 2013 #132

The answer is, and always will be: Buzz Clik Jun 2013 #136

... Major Nikon Jun 2013 #138

Old man here. Agree 100% I hate that shit. n/t broadcaster75201 Jun 2013 #134

Thanks, but Sherman A1 Jun 2013 #141

+1. Nice avatar. Buzz Clik Jun 2013 #156

Thank You Kindly! Sherman A1 Jun 2013 #174

I thought you were going to post something like this: Locrian Jun 2013 #158

K and f'ing R. Apophis Jun 2013 #160

Is it still OK if I tell those darn kids to GET OFF MY LAWN!? tclambert Jun 2013 #163

Is this you? SaveOurDemocracy Jun 2013 #167

How'd you get a picture of me? Are you with the NSA? tclambert Jun 2013 #243

Very much this. History shows the elder generation never likes the younger's choices. politicat Jun 2013 #165

Outstanding. redqueen Jun 2013 #169

but but but but this time it's *different!* Posteritatis Jun 2013 #177

And I love how I have friends who have advanced degrees in higher education Hissyspit Jun 2013 #178

Best post of the thread. LadyHawkAZ Jun 2013 #189

Thank you! *Blushes* politicat Jun 2013 #194

+1000000 liberal_at_heart Jun 2013 #227

Sorry this old lady is horrified Tumbulu Jun 2013 #172

Have you looked at much portraiture from before about 1825? politicat Jun 2013 #237

Beautiful post Tumbulu Jun 2013 #272

This message was self-deleted by its author Android3.14 Jun 2013 #179

Do I qualify as an old man? OldRedneck Jun 2013 #181

You don't sound old... Phentex Jun 2013 #201

What did I miss? W(here)TF is this coming from? maddiemom Jun 2013 #182

See if this works uppityperson Jun 2013 #221

Also, please don't call people racist because they disagree with you usGovOwesUs3Trillion Jun 2013 #186

I'm 48 and a gay man and am tired of seeing little girls dressed up like whores MNBrewer Jun 2013 #191

Who you calling old, punk?? edbermac Jun 2013 #193

How is common sense creepy? NaturalHigh Jun 2013 #216

Oh BS. One's should be free to give an opinion on anything... yawnmaster Jun 2013 #230

I like summer and spring GiveMeFreedom Jun 2013 #231

What makes one a creepy old man sulphurdunn Jun 2013 #233

But what if old men give fashion advice to YOUNGER men & telling teenage boys how to dress? alp227 Jun 2013 #234

I like it. But not too young. That's kinda creepy. ErikJ Jun 2013 #235

Post removed Post removed Jun 2013 #236

Old men Summer Hathaway Jun 2013 #240

Old Women---Please don't do this SHRED Jun 2013 #246

That WAS kind of creepy, now that you mention it. SammyWinstonJack Jun 2013 #247

So Clinton Kelly should STFU? One_Life_To_Give Jun 2013 #248

LOL! AsahinaKimi Jun 2013 #249

I agree. Old Men doing this is disgusting and creepy... madinmaryland Jun 2013 #261

I cross-posted this on www.puritanunderground.com rucky Jun 2013 #270