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Bluenorthwest

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6. Why equate him to any of those people in any way? It makes no sense at all.

Sun Jun 23, 2013, 07:36 PM

Jun 2013

It is absurd to suggest that the wrongful imprisonment of righteous people is what made them righteous. That they went to jail is bad, it is not redemptive of their actions it is damning of their governments.
Do you seriously suggest that being placed in jail makes Gandhi the Mahatma? King would have been diminished if not punished with prison? It is the injustice that makes them honorable not what they do but what is done to them?

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Thoreau went to jail. Gandhi went to jail. MLK went to jail. Snowden went to Hong Kong. [View all] 11 Bravo Jun 2013 OP

And lots of Vietnam War resistors went to Canada. WilliamPitt Jun 2013 #1

I hear you, Will. On many levels I do admire Snowden, but like I said ... 11 Bravo Jun 2013 #5

Fair enough. WilliamPitt Jun 2013 #8

In what way are your choices limited to calling him a hero or launching illogical and Bluenorthwest Jun 2013 #9

Not to mention that a few weeks in jail in Birmingham, Alabama, Romulus Quirinus Jun 2013 #15

MLK was risking his life and he did end up losing it JI7 Jun 2013 #28

nobody thought they were heroes, they didn't want to go to a war they openly opposed JI7 Jun 2013 #27

Why not? treestar Jun 2013 #29

I was eligible for the draft during Vietnam rustydog Jun 2013 #45

There ya go. n/t BumRushDaShow Jun 2013 #2

Reagan didn't go to jail. Cheney didn't go to jail. Nixon didn't go to jail. eShirl Jun 2013 #3

False equivalence on your part. The poster was referencing people that actually stood for bluestate10 Jun 2013 #10

The 'Holy Family' fled into Egypt to avoid their government. Bluenorthwest Jun 2013 #16

I'm still waiting to hear what his "heroics" revealed, heretofore unknown. CakeGrrl Jun 2013 #4

To answer your questions: Harmony Blue Jun 2013 #13

Obviously, you haven't read the documents jazzimov Jun 2013 #17

Watch this and get back to me Harmony Blue Jun 2013 #20

If it's nothing new, it's not breaking the law, is it? MNBrewer Jun 2013 #21

Why equate him to any of those people in any way? It makes no sense at all. Bluenorthwest Jun 2013 #6

um..what is,.. this isn't about Snowden? Puzzledtraveller Jun 2013 #7

I wonder what America would look like had it not been for Daniel Ellsberg. Gregorian Jun 2013 #11

Difference being zeeland Jun 2013 #12

Snowden is a hero Harmony Blue Jun 2013 #14

I'm not 100% convinced he's looking out for the common good of OUR democratic republic anymore JaneyVee Jun 2013 #19

If he intends to release more information Harmony Blue Jun 2013 #35

You don't toss around the word "hero"... former9thward Jun 2013 #18

+++ marions ghost Jun 2013 #36

No they didn't, but they faced the maximum for the "crimes" they committed rustydog Jun 2013 #46

Nelson Mandela didn''t have the balls to face consequences? former9thward Jun 2013 #47

What in hell has hero worship got to do with it? 1-Old-Man Jun 2013 #22

Basically you want Snowden to do "Epistles from the Federal Jail" KoKo Jun 2013 #23

Don't call him a hero. It doesn't change what our government is doing. morningfog Jun 2013 #24

Does that mean if he does go to jail you will change course and call him a hero? morningfog Jun 2013 #25

Larry Flint went to jail Vinnie From Indy Jun 2013 #26

"A Night at the Movies with PeeWee Herman" Dash87 Jun 2013 #44

If they were alive today they would probably go to Gitmo The Straight Story Jun 2013 #30

Bradley Manning got supermaxed. n/t backscatter712 Jun 2013 #31

. 20score Jun 2013 #32

I haven't called anyone a hero.. 99Forever Jun 2013 #33

R#4 & K for, EXcellent!1 n/t UTUSN Jun 2013 #34

You've got to go to jail to be a hero? sibelian Jun 2013 #37

It's even more ironic when you consider... randome Jun 2013 #38

there's jail and then there's jail 90-percent Jun 2013 #39

If going to jail makes one a hero, then the US is a hero super factory. ZombieHorde Jun 2013 #40

puke-worthy post. HiPointDem Jun 2013 #41

Snowden wouldn't be going to jail, though. He would disappear. Taverner Jun 2013 #42

None of those people were facing life. n/t Downtown Hound Jun 2013 #43