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30. Hear. Hear. nt

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Im tired of the everyone concentrating on Snowden and not the surveillance state [View all] davidn3600 Jun 2013 OP

K&R MotherPetrie Jun 2013 #1

Well said. Welcome to DU, btw. scarletwoman Jun 2013 #2

welcome to DU Pharaoh Jun 2013 #19

Well, the poster is new to me. And you can't see someone's post count when you have the scarletwoman Jun 2013 #20

you are forgiven Pharaoh Jun 2013 #23

Phweew! scarletwoman Jun 2013 #25

NSA is keeping a tally of your sins. Enthusiast Jun 2013 #51

to read later snagglepuss Jun 2013 #3

Not all of us... nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #4

Many of the Snowden posts seem to be attempts to deflect attention from the surveillance state..... marmar Jun 2013 #5

Absolutely. n/t Skip Intro Jun 2013 #8

exactly. liberal_at_heart Jun 2013 #10

That's true. It seems to be the modus operandi here as of late. SlimJimmy Jun 2013 #15

Snowden himself is providing the distraction with his leaks of documents pnwmom Jun 2013 #78

America is at a crossroads marions ghost Jun 2013 #6

K&R forestpath Jun 2013 #7

I agree. People seem to think it's ok. They think, the Obama administration won't abuse this data. nessa Jun 2013 #9

There isnt any evidence to prove that he has abused it though either though I agree the risk is cstanleytech Jun 2013 #35

It goes beyond that...the point that any info is being collected at all is the problem davidn3600 Jun 2013 #49

I think he wants us to concentrate on him. JaneyVee Jun 2013 #11

well then you do that frylock Jun 2013 #60

Remember, it's about who comes after. Would you want Romney to get ahold of the apparatus? nt silvershadow Jun 2013 #12

Who's an "enemy of the state"? tblue Jun 2013 #13

K&R, What is freedom if not privacy? Puzzledtraveller Jun 2013 #14

K & R cantbeserious Jun 2013 #16

That is the whole point. Curmudgeoness Jun 2013 #17

A Very Important Point You Make 99th_Monkey Jun 2013 #43

I remember that movie. Curmudgeoness Jun 2013 #69

Like a pickpocket distract nineteen50 Jun 2013 #64

Between that and running around JoeyT Jun 2013 #18

They are secret for a reason though they are dealing with intelligence issues that could impact cstanleytech Jun 2013 #33

Thanks for this matt819 Jun 2013 #21

Well put. 99Forever Jun 2013 #22

And yet, you're still able to type this OP with no consequences ecstatic Jun 2013 #24

Strawman BS hueymahl Jun 2013 #27

Alas, that's how it's done in Murica RufusTFirefly Jun 2013 #26

BUT, but ... the Liberarians are coming!!! So Snowden is E*V*I*L 99th_Monkey Jun 2013 #28

Martin Luther King was an ADULTERER!!! RufusTFirefly Jun 2013 #29

Hear. Hear. nt tsuki Jun 2013 #30

Exactly rightsideout Jun 2013 #31

Actually thats up to SCOTUS to determine if it is or is not constitutional. nt cstanleytech Jun 2013 #32

True. And it's also up to any POTUS who runs for office as a "constitutional expert" 99th_Monkey Jun 2013 #37

If it was only that simple then yes but the world isnt a simple black and white cstanleytech Jun 2013 #46

My theory about what "Obama learned once in the WH" is this 99th_Monkey Jun 2013 #47

Possible. cstanleytech Jun 2013 #48

Either way, we all lose 99th_Monkey Jun 2013 #50

The scotus that gave us citizens United? Doctor_J Jun 2013 #71

Disagreement over SCOTUS rulings are hardly new though Doc. cstanleytech Jun 2013 #74

You consider this SCOTUS trustworthy?? Doctor_J Jun 2013 #81

So you consider congress more trustworthy??? cstanleytech Jun 2013 #85

I'm actually sick of Glenn Greenwald. 1983law Jun 2013 #34

Snowden should be part of the discussion davidpdx Jun 2013 #36

"We the people" want transparency and to bring an end to rampant corruption. 99th_Monkey Jun 2013 #40

CEOs are today's Lords and Barons... Octafish Jun 2013 #38

I just finished watching the Tudors mini-series, on Netflix. 99th_Monkey Jun 2013 #41

I am bitterly disappointed by this whole issue DissidentVoice Jun 2013 #39

Exactly! 99th_Monkey Jun 2013 #42

30,000 requests since 1979. Its less disturbing if you say it that way. bhikkhu Jun 2013 #44

Apparently the FISA court rejects some requests for specific reasons... randome Jun 2013 #52

If they can't counter the message, they'll attack the messenger. n/t Fire Walk With Me Jun 2013 #45

The weird thing is how they just keep going... sibelian Jun 2013 #53

Hear, hear! FiveGoodMen Jun 2013 #54

HUGE K & R !!! - THANK YOU !!! WillyT Jun 2013 #55

Everyone isn't tavalon Jun 2013 #56

We can hear you now. blkmusclmachine Jun 2013 #57

I agree. Snowden is a small blip compared to the gaping and festering wound Cleita Jun 2013 #58

Great post, David!! K&R for clarity on the SURVEILLANCE STATE. chimpymustgo Jun 2013 #59

Hearing this hyperbole makes me want to join the NSA out of pure spite. WatermelonRat Jun 2013 #61

Well said. randome Jun 2013 #62

Welcome.... Grassy Knoll Jun 2013 #63

Always wait until you have a full-blown, unopposable surveillance state before pointing it out FiveGoodMen Jun 2013 #80

How about getting evidence before starting the operation? randome Jun 2013 #82

K&R I agree 100 percent Populist_Prole Jun 2013 #65

But, but, but...... DeSwiss Jun 2013 #66

I agree. It's similar to the IRS & Issa. SleeplessinSoCal Jun 2013 #67

but Snowden hates Jesus and universal healthcare and Glenn Greenwald is a poopy head Douglas Carpenter Jun 2013 #68

It's the culture of personality Doctor_J Jun 2013 #70

like Manning, Assange, or Sibel Edmonds, I'm more interested in what he revealed than his yurbud Jun 2013 #72

Those that do so are mindless magpies attracted to shiny objects. Bonobo Jun 2013 #73

he broke the RULES and the RULES are whats important. Warren DeMontague Jun 2013 #75

Then blame it on Snowden for not focusing his revelations on internal US surveillance pnwmom Jun 2013 #76

You know what? Bonobo Jun 2013 #77

Who's noticed the number of Snowden attackers with a 2008... TheMadMonk Jun 2013 #79

That train left the station in 2003 and there are bigger fish to fry at the moment. nt ucrdem Jun 2013 #83

How naive are we? Did many of us miss the reports saying that all of this was happening years ago? themaguffin Jun 2013 #84