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HardTimes99

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59. I'd love to take an Occam's Razor approach to this and say, well, deep down,
Mon Jun 24, 2013, 02:20 AM
Jun 2013

Obama's a corporatist or some such.

Against my natural proclivity for Occam, though, is this little jewel that seems to have slipped under most people's radar:

http://news.firedoglake.com/2013/06/21/former-intelligence-analyst-obama-was-wiretapped-by-nsa-in-2004/

Because of all the breaking news in McClatchy about the much-wider 'Insider Threat Program,' I have not yet had a chance to circle back to the FDL story. Consider it merely a working hypothesis for now, an attempt to answer your question of 'why'.

Put briefly, starting in around 2003-04, when Obama began to achieve national prominence, the Bush boys (many of whom now pervade our current security services) got the drop on him or Michelle. Bill Ayers? Reverend Wright? Some other unknown skeleton from the Obamas' closet? I have no idea how such things are done at that level of power, but one might imagine a special session with Candidate Obama when he is told, "You can say x and do y, but must never do z."

I'll leave it at that for now, but if it has legs, this FDL story trumps almost all others (although that Insider Threat story is a doozy and a DUZY).

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yeah, this has been posted. glad you posted it again cali Jun 2013 #1
They were instructing kids to rat out their parents in the mid to late 80's Fumesucker Jun 2013 #3
I forgot about that cali Jun 2013 #4
Oh they still do it, they're just less explicit about it now Fumesucker Jun 2013 #11
my kids and all of their friends called it greymattermom Jun 2013 #17
Don't worry anyone; Obama is a Constitutional scholar! Fire Walk With Me Jun 2013 #2
This is the very *bad* part about Russia we were taught growing up. pacalo Jun 2013 #5
You're missing the point. Jackpine Radical Jun 2013 #45
If we weren't learning about it in school, we heard about it on the evening news. pacalo Jun 2013 #50
Yes. Bad, and inexcusable. delrem Jun 2013 #46
The sugar coating of horrible things turns bitter when people learn they've been misled. pacalo Jun 2013 #51
McCarthy would be proud newfie11 Jun 2013 #6
How do we step back from this now? magellan Jun 2013 #7
K&R MotherPetrie Jun 2013 #8
K&R Hell Hath No Fury Jun 2013 #9
Thanks I hadn't seen this boston bean Jun 2013 #10
That is the essential question! Yo_Mama Jun 2013 #24
Or it's a case of some believing it could never happen to them boston bean Jun 2013 #25
bringing a frog to a slow boil. easy. nt delrem Jun 2013 #47
k&r nt steve2470 Jun 2013 #12
The authors of this piece just didn't get their ponies Doctor_J Jun 2013 #13
heh SammyWinstonJack Jun 2013 #14
But, But .... Obama Was Supposed To Be The Transparent President And Presidency - What Happened? cantbeserious Jun 2013 #15
Well, can't you see through him? Eleanors38 Jun 2013 #27
Opposition becomes "anti-govt", then "inside threat", "aiding enemies", then a TERRORIST! Civilization2 Jun 2013 #16
Du rec. Nt xchrom Jun 2013 #18
k&r Little Star Jun 2013 #19
What happens when private contractors are in charge of the NSA malaise Jun 2013 #20
Good Point...suspect we will find out eventually. n/t KoKo Jun 2013 #21
It already happened Trailrider1951 Jun 2013 #36
Good point n/t malaise Jun 2013 #64
And EVERY president since then Trailrider1951 Jun 2013 #68
it aint over ,till it's over. WRH2 Jun 2013 #63
A very important piece. Thanks n/t Catherina Jun 2013 #22
Thanks for posting this article and explanation Yo_Mama Jun 2013 #23
Can anyone cite the last time the U.S. "protect{ed anyone} who bl{e}w the whistle"??? snot Jun 2013 #26
"stress, divorce, financial problems" -- if you SEE something SAY something nashville_brook Jun 2013 #28
I had all of those things simultaneously back in the '90s Blue_In_AK Jun 2013 #53
Scary Stuff! bvar22 Jun 2013 #29
Oh No - Not Ayn Rand - Please Tell Me It Isn't So cantbeserious Jun 2013 #33
I hate to say it but delrem Jun 2013 #49
Simple! The NSA has the goods on Obama, his wife or both - nt HardTimes99 Jun 2013 #54
No. I don't think it's that simple. delrem Jun 2013 #57
I'd love to take an Occam's Razor approach to this and say, well, deep down, HardTimes99 Jun 2013 #59
Yes, I read that report. However delrem Jun 2013 #60
I think it's fair to say that no one who might know anything defintiive is talking yet and HardTimes99 Jun 2013 #61
Right, we can't know, it's impossible to know, but it sure is spooky. delrem Jun 2013 #62
But everyone IS being spied on. That's just one way Congress is controlled. Obama surely hasn't chimpymustgo Jun 2013 #66
Do you think "have the goods on Obama" is any excuse? delrem Jun 2013 #67
"Don't suspect a friend, report him" suffragette Jun 2013 #30
"The Insider Threat Program." DirkGently Jun 2013 #31
Roger That - We Have Become Our Worst Fears From The Cold War cantbeserious Jun 2013 #32
HUGE K & R !!! - Thank You !!! WillyT Jun 2013 #34
K&R. myrna minx Jun 2013 #35
And it's not like we really have much of a free press left, that is willing to take kenny blankenship Jun 2013 #37
Yes. As proof, look what David Gregory tried to do to Greenwald - closeupready Jun 2013 #42
oh shit undergroundpanther Jun 2013 #38
... FirstLight Jun 2013 #39
We're all Germans now. blkmusclmachine Jun 2013 #40
So I heard Kim Kardashian's mom, Kris Jenner, is getting a talk show closeupready Jun 2013 #41
"When the Department of Education is searching for "insider threats" something's gone very wrong." dkf Jun 2013 #43
Agreed. Something is up that has been off everyones radar. Why the hell would they be on GoneFishin Jun 2013 #48
K & R cantbeserious Jun 2013 #44
Thank you Blue_In_AK Jun 2013 #52
which free press is that? sigmasix Jun 2013 #55
When you do something for any kind of benefit to one's self, that action is NOT free, it's paid and, patrice Jun 2013 #56
We'd be able to recognize an authentically free press by it's ability to both support & criticize PO patrice Jun 2013 #58
What free free press? They must mean the corporate owned press malaise Jun 2013 #65
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