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In reply to the discussion: Treason: You are liars. You are cowards. You are scum. [View all]Fire Walk With Me
(38,893 posts)but why in the world can you absolutely state that Obama does not engage in warrantless wiretapping as though you have some inside perspective, not merely an opinion? When this president has over and over proven himself to be a complete disaster regarding our civil liberties, has resulted in the elimination of the 1st, 4th, and 5th Amendments, engaged in literal domestic terrorism against the Occupy Wall Street movement (yeah, they said they weren't spying on us either, yet FOIA documents prove DHS and FBI and likely even more because they now share documents through fusion centers, LIED about spying upon us, as well as sharing our information and their findings with the very corporations and banks we were pointing out to be The Problem)...Obama is a shill for wall street and the banksters who nearly ruined the economy, providing them with continuing billions of taxpayer dollars in bailouts while forcing "austerity" in the form of "sequestration" upon the rest of us...extrajudicial execution of US citizens suspected of terrorism or terrorist links...twice signing the NDAA section 1021 providing for the indefinite detention of US citizens with neither trial nor representation, and the NDAA 2014 being about indefinite surveillance...sure, I believe everything they claim.
This is all nothing but a continuation and strengthening of the neocon/Bush doctrine. There are no fucking terrorists. Americans are not fucking terrorists. This is a power grab of amazing proportions. This is:
Ron Suskind, quoting an unnamed aide to George W. Bush (later attributed to Karl Rove[1]):
The aide said that guys like me were "in what we call the reality-based community," which he defined as people who "believe that solutions emerge from your judicious study of discernible reality." ... "That's not the way the world really works anymore," he continued. "We're an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality. And while you're studying that realityjudiciously, as you willwe'll act again, creating other new realities, which you can study too, and that's how things will sort out. We're history's actors
and you, all of you, will be left to just study what we do."[2]
And they're still doing it. Obama is one of them, and is helping it along quite handily. Because one Republican president later (and remember, they steal elections), and activists and protesters and journalists and journalists sources and everyone who looks at them wrong can be Gitmo'd. Period, and seriously. All of the provisions are now in place. All that remains is to use them. This is not going to reverse. This is also no mistake. This is orchestrated, and continuous.