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Scuba

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19. "We have to fight for our coalition on the margins." Wrong ...

Mon Jun 24, 2013, 06:09 AM

Jun 2013

... remember, half the population doesn't vote, because neither party offers them squat. That's where the votes are, waiting for the Democrats to advocate for ...

A living wage

Medicare for All

Strengthening Social Security

Legalizing pot

Cutting defense to pay for it all.

Every time a Democrat moves to the right to pick up one vote, he/she loses three. The available votes are further left.

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Looks like the right is making a concerted [View all] applegrove Jun 2013 OP

I don't know. There are people on the left who despise incremental progress. Recursion Jun 2013 #1

You just blew my mind. LisaLynne Jun 2013 #25

Obama and Democrats are handling this scandal horrifically davidn3600 Jun 2013 #2

So you aren't a democrat? Explains your previous comments. Perhaps there is a website okaawhatever Jun 2013 #5

I don't have to prove my party membership you davidn3600 Jun 2013 #18

A petty and very weak argument. Got anything worth wasting our time on? n/t Egalitarian Thug Jun 2013 #58

The true intent of the whole thing treestar Jun 2013 #30

I'm one of those far left and I would NEVER vote for Ron Paul. Never ever ever. Gravitycollapse Jun 2013 #3

But Rand is being handled and has applegrove Jun 2013 #4

Well, if it's only just a few low-information voters Art_from_Ark Jun 2013 #6

A few voters in the wrong state can turn an election. Witness Florida's 500 voters in 2000. n/t pnwmom Jun 2013 #8

There were only five voters who mattered in 2000 n/t Fumesucker Jun 2013 #10

It would never have landed on their Court if Nader hadn't drawn 9500 votes in Florida. n/t pnwmom Jun 2013 #11

It also wouldn't have happened if Democratic voters didn't vote for Pat Buchanan Fumesucker Jun 2013 #13

I have a couple questions for you about the 2000 election. Jim Lane Jun 2013 #15

Anyone can and many do cherry pick reasons for what happened in 2000 Fumesucker Jun 2013 #16

It's cherry picking to single out any one cause where "ultimately the responsibility" lies. Jim Lane Jun 2013 #24

The SCOTUS overruled all else Fumesucker Jun 2013 #32

You write, "Arguably Harris and others acted improperly...." Jim Lane Jun 2013 #41

Do you think that Nader's alleged "wrongdoing" rose to the level of that of Harris and the SCOTUS? Fumesucker Jun 2013 #54

The issue isn't that Nader "exaggerated" or even, more accurately, that he lied. Jim Lane Jun 2013 #56

I thought I indicated that Nader's campaign was not in complete congruence with objective reality ? Fumesucker Jun 2013 #59

You're very charitable toward Nader's folly. Jim Lane Jun 2013 #63

Eh, Gore couldn't even win his home state of Tennessee Fumesucker Jun 2013 #65

I don't see where I brought your personality into this. Jim Lane Jun 2013 #66

The Buchanan voters made a mistake. What Nader did was purposeful. n/t pnwmom Jun 2013 #20

The DU "Shoot the Messenger" squad, in action. MNBrewer Jun 2013 #21

And Kathryn Harris, was what she did a mistake also? n/t Fumesucker Jun 2013 #55

The vote counting in Florida was halted before all the votes were counted Art_from_Ark Jun 2013 #34

K & R SunSeeker Jun 2013 #7

Obama seems to oddly be going out of his way to assist in splitting Dems. 99th_Monkey Jun 2013 #9

It is far easier to blame voters Harmony Blue Jun 2013 #44

Gasps from the Good old boy Goons. nt bluedeathray Jun 2013 #12

Obama could appoint a Commission on Civil Liberties Restoration with Glenn Greenwald as chair Jim Lane Jun 2013 #14

And he could travel around DC in a carriage pulled by a team of unicorns, too. baldguy Jun 2013 #26

Yeah, Dick Cheney would be the better choice! mhatrw Jun 2013 #36

OK, I'll compromise. Russ Feingold. Jim Lane Jun 2013 #40

Sweet Jesus... a "STRATEGIST"... sibelian Jun 2013 #17

There are many. baldguy Jun 2013 #27

Lots of closeted and not so closeted libertarians. nt geek tragedy Jun 2013 #29

You said it! zappaman Jun 2013 #42

Yes...nt SidDithers Jun 2013 #31

Nope. I'm not talking about people who talk politics online. I'm talking applegrove Jun 2013 #39

Next you will call them commies nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #45

I'm not saying the right orchestrated this. I'm saying the crisis/scandal plays into the narrative applegrove Jun 2013 #46

Why is Issa not going there? nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #48

I think Issa isn't going there because the right likes the datamining. It is an important applegrove Jun 2013 #61

Well at least you understand this is nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #62

if they're actually on the 'far left,' it's unlikely they're low information voters. HiPointDem Jun 2013 #49

"We have to fight for our coalition on the margins." Wrong ... Scuba Jun 2013 #19

^^^ THIS MNBrewer Jun 2013 #22

+1. We need to fight for our coalition among the marginalized. winter is coming Jun 2013 #60

Backwards... ForeignandDomestic Jun 2013 #23

Rand Paul does not stand up for civil liberties and the Constitution. baldguy Jun 2013 #33

No, the fringe left is just wallowing in its love of fantasy. geek tragedy Jun 2013 #28

Are you in favor of the NSA domestic spying programs? mhatrw Jun 2013 #37

I think they need to be scaled back and subject to more transparency and controls. geek tragedy Jun 2013 #38

I meant domestic SECURITY programs. mhatrw Jun 2013 #52

What do you mean by "domestic security programs?" geek tragedy Jun 2013 #53

This has been happening on the ground in my city loyalsister Jun 2013 #35

Simple solution. Shut down the NSA, prosecute banksters rather than whistleblowers. Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2013 #43

Clearly a game changer. avaistheone1 Jun 2013 #64

Good analysis. They need the Paulbots nt flamingdem Jun 2013 #47

Democratic politicians have to start representing the people. liberal_at_heart Jun 2013 #50

Yes they are. Dawson Leery Jun 2013 #51

These conspiracy theories baffle me. JoeyT Jun 2013 #57